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Duncan was nervous when we got him had spent first 8 months of his life shut in a shed, was scared of trees and grass, his aggression started after he was neutered the vet said the lack of testosterone caused it. His fear just went off the scale.
Poor little thing.
Neutering an animal would not cause an immediate increase in nervousness as testosterone continues to be in the body for about six months.
Dogs that have been ill treated do have issues.
The formative time ( about six weeks ) is vital for them to be happy socialized dogs.
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Oh dear I can see I am wasting my time Muddy . I will leave you to go on admiring someone who thinks torturing a dog is acceptable.
He doesn't torture dogs Megs
I am an animal lover and would never condone any ill treatment of an animal.
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03-01-2016, 05:10 PM
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I guess torture is subjective, I call it torture when he hit a lovely dog for food aggression I think it was, he really had to taunt her to make her turn then punched her
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03-01-2016, 05:10 PM
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Training by fear/pain is wrong and shocking a dog or using a prong collar creates fear and pain it gives negative signals.

Anyone who thinks this is good training is sadly mistaken.

What you create in a fear/pain trained animal is a ticking time bomb.

Positive training menthods get my vote any day and Ive had dogs all my life.
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03-01-2016, 05:24 PM
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Re: Cesar Millan (split from Barbara Woodhouse thread )

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Dogs aren't wolves, that is the first mistake people made when they said dogs were pack animals.
Dogs are pack animal.
Look at the African hunting dogs
They live and works as a pack
Dogs are highly social animals
They put their trust in a competent leader.
The leader ( often an alpha female ) makes all of the decisions, provides fair discipline, makes and enforces rules and controls resources.
The pack works collectively together to give the next generation the best chance of survival.

If a dog doesnt have a human ' leader '
he will step up to the job.
But he doesn really like it a dog that has his foods and needs provided for him is confused because he knows these are his tasks as leader.
He would prefer to be a follower.
So he does what he can do ie protection with more effort.
this of course often turns out to be unacceptable behaviour
ie aggressiveness towards visitors
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03-01-2016, 05:26 PM
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They aren't African wild dogs either. We keep them puppy like their entire lives, it's not a pack at all.
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03-01-2016, 05:29 PM
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Yes it is
the pack consist of you and your family members
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Re: Cesar Millan (split from Barbara Woodhouse thread )

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They aren't African wild dogs either. We keep them puppy like their entire lives, it's not a pack at all.
I think you are wasting your time Julie Muddy clearly does not believe in evolution.
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03-01-2016, 05:35 PM
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You may be right Meg I am not a dog my dogs know I am not a dog too. So no pack here.
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03-01-2016, 05:37 PM
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I think that was an unnecessary comment Meg.
It clear that you have no time for me but please allow me to have an opinion on something .

Here are some facts on African Wild Dogs Julie
If you are an animal lover you may be interested .
You dog looks to you as leader Julie because it lives with you and you provide it with food you dont actually have to be a dog.

http://www.onekind.org/education/ani...ican_wild_dog/
 
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