08-08-2019, 07:56 AM
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Re: Boy, 6, 'thrown from 10th floor' of Tate Modern
I have sympathy for people with mental health issuesHowever you could argue that anyone who commits terrible evil crimes like this must have some form of mental illness he did this terrible thing and regardless of his state of mind the victim deserves justice....
In extreme cases like this I'm sorry to sound so hard but IMO his mental state should not be a primary consideration.
08-08-2019, 08:12 AM
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Re: Boy, 6, 'thrown from 10th floor' of Tate Modern
Originally Posted by Bread
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The political correct brigade who lobbied for care in the community and tearing down the institutions have now got blood on their hands.
They closed the institutions but then they decided not to properly fund community care. It is they that are to blame, not some mythical politically correct brigade which gets rolled out by the politically inept when there is someone that needs to be blamed.
Talking about inept - you've gone very quiet about the cricket.
08-08-2019, 08:24 AM
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Re: Boy, 6, 'thrown from 10th floor' of Tate Modern
Originally Posted by Zuleika
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Pure Speculation on your part taking it as gospel that he was out with two care workers when a newspaper report said Police were investigating whether the teenager absconded from his unit OR bolted from staff escorting him on a day trip
In the past people with serious mental health issues were confined to mental institutions, to prevent them harming others. Anybody that throws a child from a high building is either an evil murderer, or has serious mental health issues!
I wonder how you would feel if the 6 year old was your child
08-08-2019, 09:13 AM
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Re: Boy, 6, 'thrown from 10th floor' of Tate Modern
Originally Posted by JBR
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So where were the two 'carers' when the poor, misunderstood mental case threw the kid off the top of the building? Having a well-earned break and a cup of coffee?They should go to jail for being responsible for a young kid being severely injured and quite probably disabled for life.
08-08-2019, 10:11 AM
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Re: Boy, 6, 'thrown from 10th floor' of Tate Modern
Originally Posted by summer
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I have sympathy for people with mental health issues However you could argue that anyone who commits terrible evil crimes like this must have some form of mental illness he did this terrible thing and regardless of his state of mind the victim deserves justice....
In extreme cases like this I'm sorry to sound so hard but IMO his mental state should not be a primary consideration.
08-08-2019, 10:52 AM
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Re: Boy, 6, 'thrown from 10th floor' of Tate Modern
Originally Posted by Bruce
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That's a total nonsense, it was politicians who got rid of the institutions on the basis that community care was cheaper. It was purely cynical government economic policy.They closed the institutions but then they decided not to properly fund community care. It is they that are to blame, not some mythical politically correct brigade which gets rolled out by the politically inept when there is someone that needs to be blamed.
Talking about inept - you've gone very quiet about the cricket.
The politicians were under pressure from the liberals and as usual caved in because of the PC lobbyists and virtue signalling idiots. Extra funding and throwing tax payers money at care in the community would do nothing to fix the problem.The situation became rapidly out of control resulting in care in the community became "isolation in the community". It was a complete disaster and still is.
We had a system that worked, it wasn't a case of throwing money at the problem - what is needed is bringing back the old system so that people can be cared for properly in institutions that are fit for purpose rather than having them distributed around the country where they are isolated, uncared for and vulnerable.
Go and speak to classroom learning assistants, mental health nurses and social workers - I have and funnily enough they all agree with me and a lot of that ^^^ came directly from them and my own experiences.
As for the cricket, we will see what happens in the 2nd test next week.
08-08-2019, 11:12 AM
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Re: Boy, 6, 'thrown from 10th floor' of Tate Modern
As for saying his mental state should not be a primary consideration, we don’t know what exactly the offender is suffering from nor the state of his mind at that time so I don’t agree with that statement .Was he in a psychotic state ? If it’s true he was stalking others in a public place that’s not normal behaviour .
Had he slipped the security where he was staying ?
He has been described to The Sun by an ex carer as not being allowed out unless two of them were with him which says a bit . I doubt they would be female him being a well built , 5 foot 10 .
I cannot imagine a crowded Tate Modern being a suitable venue anyway.
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