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Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->
Hi

Trump is the biggest Warmonger in the World.
The only war he has been involved in is one he did not start - it is the war that ANTIFA and their fellow travelers declared against him. Otherwise the wars started by previous presidents started still fester on.
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11-09-2020, 11:21 AM
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Re: Peace Prize

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It doesn’t just mean living apart as you well know.
One side is always treated differently usually very badly .
Especially in the case of South Africa .
The black people were treated in a brutal fashion and were treated appallingly.
One of my friends who has a friend in South Africa told her the whites are treated badly in South Africa now, it's like the black people are making the Whites pay for how it was once. I don't know how true that is, just what my friend was told by a South African white woman
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11-09-2020, 08:18 PM
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The terrorists in South Africa were the whites who enforced apartheid the most repugnant system in the world .
Mandela fought for the destruction of apartheid and succeeded .
His presidency was humane and honourable .
He was not a perfect human being who is ?
He tried to bring whites blacks and coloured together - a rainbow nation.
Hasn't quite worked though has it, as tales of the murder of hundreds of white farmers are beginning to appear.
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11-09-2020, 08:29 PM
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He’s been dead seven years and retired years before that .
But while he was in power great strides in unity were made.
South Africa needs another Mandela .
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11-09-2020, 09:27 PM
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Re: Peace Prize

Originally Posted by Muddy ->
He’s been dead seven years and retired years before that .
But while he was in power great strides in unity were made.
South Africa needs another Mandela .
The ANC have bee in charge for over 30yrs now Muddy ?
Things out there are on the point of collapsing now because the people that took over power from the whites are still the same people
or their relatives?( the old africa story) !
I could write a book on what they have ruined but l wont bore you with
that except to say now only have electric power for about 4hrs per day
and water is unavailable on a regular basis and comes out of the taps
full of grit and mud! This is the cities and towns l am talking about !
Even the gold mines have to shut down due to no electricity !
Whilst l agree that aparthied was an inhuman system not all whites
in SA agreed with it and tried to treat all people equally !! Some
Africaaners actualy suffered trying to change things so all people
should not be tarred with the same brush!
Now the shortcomings of the ANC should not be blamed onto the
citizens that voted them into power as they naturally wanted change
and believed all the lies and BS they were told !! The rest is history as
they say!!


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PS. I agree about Mandela !
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11-09-2020, 09:41 PM
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Re: Peace Prize

Originally Posted by Muddy ->
He’s been dead seven years and retired years before that .
But while he was in power great strides in unity were made.
South Africa needs another Mandela .
Like a hole in the head.

Mandela did as he was told up to a point. His awful wife did not get up to what she did without direction. Remember the infamous Winnie Mandela Football club.

Mandela himself realised he could achieve much more when it came to the de-colinisation of ZA by playing the game than picking up terrorism and open conflict again.

F W De Klerk had read the writing on the wall when Rhodesia fell. He played a loosing hand superbly.
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11-09-2020, 09:42 PM
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Re: Peace Prize

Originally Posted by Lion Queen ->
One of my friends who has a friend in South Africa told her the whites are treated badly in South Africa now, it's like the black people are making the Whites pay for how it was once. I don't know how true that is, just what my friend was told by a South African white woman
I dont think the whites are treated badly intentionally LQ?
Its just that the whole country has deteriorated so much that
everybody is suffering, except the politicians of course !!

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11-09-2020, 09:48 PM
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Re: Peace Prize

Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
Like a hole in the head.

Mandela did as he was told up to a point. His awful wife did not get up to what she did without direction. Remember the infamous Winnie Mandela Football club.

Mandela himself realised he could achieve much more when it came to the de-colinisation of ZA by playing the game than picking up terrorism and open conflict again.

F W De Klerk had read the writing on the wall when Rhodesia fell. He played a loosing hand superbly.
Is that first hand knowledge Todgy??

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11-09-2020, 09:56 PM
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Anyway! Back to Trumpy!
I think that though he does not deserve it, he might well get
nominated, just in time for the election ?
Theres a lot of big noises puling strings a this moment !!

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Is that first hand knowledge Todgy??

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Sorta. My wife and I had cousins in and around Johannesburg who set up shop immediately after the war but moved out end of 97. My mother and father visited them most years and as a kid I usually went with them.
 
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