Re: France is right to ban the Burkini

Yes, perhaps it's what they are doing all over the place: seeing just how far they can push and get away with it.

Just like a naughty child.

Re: France is right to ban the Burkini

Of course, but examples of this were given in that thread linked to in the OP. That's what I was actually referring to.

Re: France is right to ban the Burkini

It did seem heavy-handed but you have to offset that by the fact that it also occurred at the Promenade des Anglais, the scene of last month’s Bastille Day lorry attack.

It's the domino effect ..... started by terrorist attacks and that is where any blame should rightly be laid and remain.

Re: France is right to ban the Burkini

But she wasn't wearing a burkini
She was wearing a headscarf and a tunic

The fact that she was there on the beach with her children enjoying the sunshine with everyone else should have been a chance for her to integrate in to the country she was a part of
Not singled out and shamed and made to feel like an outcast

Re: France is right to ban the Burkini

But surely many of these people want to feel like outcasts?

Many have no wish to integrate and this is one way they have of showing it.

Re: France is right to ban the Burkini

Quite correct JBR.

To fit in you adjust and adopt the ways of the majority.
It is that simple really.

I'm waiting for a host of nuns to roll up and demurely strip off on the beach.

Re: France is right to ban the Burkini

Exactly right!
SHE WASN'T WEARING A BURKINI!!

All it achieved was her humiliation, her young daughter was crying, people were shouting at her...holy Norah!
It was a masterclass in mishandling and it was shameful.

France is better than this surely?

Re: France is right to ban the Burkini

Sorry JBR
But unless you can see that that is utter b******* then it's no wonder you fear for our future

Most of us are working on the basic premise that all humans, in the core, want the same thing.

It's when you start to categorise and dehumanise people that you lose the basis of your own humanity

Re: France is right to ban the Burkini

I have some sympathy but I'm always reminded of how a soldier was treated at Queen Elizabeth hospital.

Some members of the Muslim staff complained that his uniform was upsetting them and refused to Help until it was removed.

This young squaddie had been injured in Afghanistan, treated at Bastion, stabilised and medevac'ed back to the UK.

He was then made to feel uncomfortable in his uniform.

So........

Re: France is right to ban the Burkini

Oh pleeeeaaaaseeeee Rhian ...

You don't see the subjugation and oppression of women and the wearing of burkas as qualifying for ...
It's when you start to categorise and dehumanise people that you lose the basis of your own humanity

Very high falutin.
Personally I think the burkini ban is a little farcical in addition to giving ammunition to the bleeding hearts. This is nothing more than a reactionary backlash from the authorities after the terrorist attacks .. and a poorly thought out one but it in no way makes Muslims a victim, though doubtless they will be presented as such .... it is the direct consequence of a rattled government after terrorism has unsettled and worried a nations innocent civilians (Muslims included).

I'd allow them to wear what they like regarding beach and swim wear.
But I would go for a burka ban in all public places.