18-05-2020, 05:29 PM
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Re: EU Caving in on Fisheries
Originally Posted by Bread
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We are an independent sovereign nation. Only the EU says things like 3rd Country to fool its followers into thinking its a good idea and superior to everyone else.
Only fools believe it
https://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/wh...ird-country_en
18-05-2020, 06:00 PM
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Re: EU Caving in on Fisheries
Originally Posted by Solasch
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Only a matter of defining. A country that is not a member of the European Union as well as a country or territory whose citizens do not enjoy the European Union*right to free movement, as defined in Art. 2(5) of the*Regulation (EU) 2016/399 (Schengen Borders Code).https://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/wh...ird-country_en
We ended free movement with the EU today
18-05-2020, 09:32 PM
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Re: EU Caving in on Fisheries
Originally Posted by Bread
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I think you mean "all over the world"
18-05-2020, 09:48 PM
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Re: EU Caving in on Fisheries
Originally Posted by Solasch
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I think you are right. Trump was a little bit stupid in excluding britain and ireland from his ban on flights from europe. But it took him only four days to realise his mistake, and exclude you too. But by then corona had reached new york.
It was because the UK and Ireland are not connected to mainland Europe and weren't showing the same mortality rates at the time.
The UK has its own immigration policy as of today.
18-05-2020, 10:00 PM
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Re: EU Caving in on Fisheries
Originally Posted by Bread
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Its a draft treaty the UK have drawn up that details the legal texts around the free trade agreement we are offering. We didn't request any hiding of our treaty, in fact now its ready, we are distributing it to over 400 million people in the EU so they can see for themselves what Barnier has turned down on their behalf.It is being made public now to try and get past the deadlock between the EU and the UK because Barnier refuses to talk about trade and instead thinks that the UK should be the only country in the world to have a trade arrangement with the EU that gives away its territorial waters and ties itself to someone else's court and rules instead of their own.
There's going to be a lot of very, very angry EU businesses soon.
I'm not fully sure how much the people of Europe know about these negotiations but, as has been mentioned elsewhere, the majority of EU 'member states' are not interested in fishing, at least in our territorial waters. Consequently, I'm sure that the majority of people in the EU will not be supporting Barmy in his continued insistence on free access to our fishing waters.
I am also unsure exactly how much influence the ordinary people of the EU have on the Commission and their decision makers. I'd like to think that, if the EU claims to be a democratic organisation, that should be considerable and that consequently Barmy would be instructed to drop his insistence on free access to our fishing areas.
Actually, I feel that would be a shame, because I'd much prefer him to stick to his guns and force us to take the option of leaving in June under WTO trading agreements. I really don't want a trade agreement with the EU because - and call me negative if you will - I'm sure that any such agreement, whatever its form, would certainly not be in our interests.
18-05-2020, 10:05 PM
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Re: EU Caving in on Fisheries
Originally Posted by JBR
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A very sensible move on our part.I'm not fully sure how much the people of Europe know about these negotiations but, as has been mentioned elsewhere, the majority of EU 'member states' are not interested in fishing, at least in our territorial waters. Consequently, I'm sure that the majority of people in the EU will not be supporting Barmy in his continued insistence on free access to our fishing waters.
I am also unsure exactly how much influence the ordinary people of the EU have on the Commission and their decision makers. I'd like to think that, if the EU claims to be a democratic organisation, that should be considerable and that consequently Barmy would be instructed to drop his insistence on free access to our fishing areas.
Actually, I feel that would be a shame, because I'd much prefer him to stick to his guns and force us to take the option of leaving in June under WTO trading agreements. I really don't want a trade agreement with the EU because - and call me negative if you will - I'm sure that any such agreement, whatever its form, would certainly not be in our interests.
The EU commission only serves itself. The EU project and political ideology is their priority.
Meanwhile in other trade news, the UK and USA trade talks are going very well.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...ump-trade-deal
18-05-2020, 10:39 PM
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Re: EU Caving in on Fisheries
Originally Posted by Bread
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Your spot on there, JBR.The EU commission only serves itself. The EU project and political ideology is their priority.
Meanwhile in other trade news, the UK and USA trade talks are going very well.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...ump-trade-deal
Even the EU or, as is quite likely to happen, individual European countries!
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