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26-08-2018, 01:07 AM
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Re: Is banning serenas cat suit the same as banning the burka?

I think it's about time we got rid of the old empire standards for ever - white out and colors in - color is more vibrant - white is bland ; bleached and only cleanses dirty minds? why do women still wear white wedding dresses - to cover up the blemishes ? - and apart from a few occasional querks the men don't - pure white ; pure as driven snow - but heh snow melts and turns into grey and brown slush remember!
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Re: Is banning serenas cat suit the same as banning the burka?

Nothing to do with Muslim attire whatsoever. It's against Wimbledon's dress code. How can that be comparable?
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26-08-2018, 01:14 AM
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Re: Is banning serenas cat suit the same as banning the burka?

Originally Posted by Floydy ->
Nothing to do with Muslim attire whatsoever. It's against Wimbledon's dress code. How can that be comparable?
in the mind floydie in the mind - mind games - white is might - white is supreme etc etc think about it think about it whilst ya pushing muscle??
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26-08-2018, 07:54 AM
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Re: Is banning serenas cat suit the same as banning the burka?

Originally Posted by gumbud ->
in the mind floydie in the mind - mind games - white is might - white is supreme etc etc think about it think about it whilst ya pushing muscle??
Talking about losing one's mind...there was Gumby again. Desperately droll as usual (yawn).
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26-08-2018, 10:18 AM
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Re: Is banning serenas cat suit the same as banning the burka?

Are we not reading too much into this (as usual) we could attribute all kinds of mystical mumbo jumbo to any colour that was selected. And why does Gumbud blame the 'Empire' for all the world's ills? Had it not been for the ' British Empire' you would not be living the life of Riley where you are (would any of us) with all of it's associated freedoms...

With all due respect Surfermom, if athletes need to wear clothing to support or assist an injury, they should not be taking part at all....If the injury occurs during competition, then it is up to the discretion of the athlete whether to battle on or not. Except in boxing where the referee can override the competitors decision to carry on....

By allowing any colour or type of clothing in certain sporting events is asking for trouble. Sport should not be about the technology or who has the most money, it should be about the skill and fitness of the athlete....

Football has failed to be competitive these days and is ruled by money. The team that can afford the best players usually win. Formula one is dominated by three teams who can afford the advanced technology to give them the edge. Don't let Tennis fall into that category by relaxing the rules on dress code...The thin end of the wedge.....
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26-08-2018, 10:44 AM
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Re: Is banning serenas cat suit the same as banning the burka?

Originally Posted by OldGreyFox ->
Are we not reading too much into this (as usual) we could attribute all kinds of mystical mumbo jumbo to any colour that was selected. And why does Gumbud blame the 'Empire' for all the world's ills? Had it not been for the ' British Empire' you would not be living the life of Riley where you are (would any of us) with all of it's associated freedoms...

With all due respect Surfermom, if athletes need to wear clothing to support or assist an injury, they should not be taking part at all....If the injury occurs during competition, then it is up to the discretion of the athlete whether to battle on or not. Except in boxing where the referee can override the competitors decision to carry on....

By allowing any colour or type of clothing in certain sporting events is asking for trouble. Sport should not be about the technology or who has the most money, it should be about the skill and fitness of the athlete....

Football has failed to be competitive these days and is ruled by money. The team that can afford the best players usually win. Formula one is dominated by three teams who can afford the advanced technology to give them the edge. Don't let Tennis fall into that category by relaxing the rules on dress code...The thin end of the wedge.....

Well said OGF. Williams appears to HAVE to win at all costs and will do or try anything regardless of any rules or regulations. Nike are there to make money and will support any flaunting of these if they can get away with it.

It is sad to see many sports used like this where skill comes second .
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27-08-2018, 01:03 AM
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Re: Is banning serenas cat suit the same as banning the burka?

Originally Posted by OldGreyFox ->
Are we not reading too much into this (as usual) we could attribute all kinds of mystical mumbo jumbo to any colour that was selected. And why does Gumbud blame the 'Empire' for all the world's ills? Had it not been for the ' British Empire' you would not be living the life of Riley where you are (would any of us) with all of it's associated freedoms...

With all due respect Surfermom, if athletes need to wear clothing to support or assist an injury, they should not be taking part at all....If the injury occurs during competition, then it is up to the discretion of the athlete whether to battle on or not. Except in boxing where the referee can override the competitors decision to carry on....

By allowing any colour or type of clothing in certain sporting events is asking for trouble. Sport should not be about the technology or who has the most money, it should be about the skill and fitness of the athlete....

Football has failed to be competitive these days and is ruled by money. The team that can afford the best players usually win. Formula one is dominated by three teams who can afford the advanced technology to give them the edge. Don't let Tennis fall into that category by relaxing the rules on dress code...The thin end of the wedge.....
the store was tidy when I left - what happened??...............
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27-08-2018, 02:42 AM
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Re: Is banning serenas cat suit the same as banning the burka?

I dug up the Wimbledon dress code.

It appears to me to me that Serena's compression outfit in white would be within standards if it was considered a "medical support". Wimbledon seems to have no problem with "medical supports and equipment" per item 10, and they can even be a color other than white.

So if she considered the compression gear a medical support per item 10, could she petition for exception on the color? She might try, but I would think that request would be denied since Nike could make her pretty much anything in any color, at anytime.

Players in virtually every sport at one time or another wear tape, wrap, flexible bandages, orthotics, finger splints, etc. for various injuries or conditions. It is up to them whether or not they should play with a certain degree of injury; it certainly doesn't give them an advantage Wimbledon seems to agree.

The question then becomes whether or not the compression tights are worn for medical reasons. If the answer is no, then then do they fall into the category of track suit bottoms?

It's already been done. Anne White, Wimbledon 1985:
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I agree that this look isn't very flattering, which is why I still suspect that she is wearing the compression gear for medical reasons.

Perhaps tennis players should all generally wear the same attire like they do in football, baseball, American football? Push the limits enough and I can see it happening - or would Wimbledon and the likes cave to the almighty Nike, Adidas, Lacoste, dollar?

Dress Code for Wimbledon, 2018

The following refers to all clothing, including tracksuits and sweaters, worn on The Championship courts both for practice and for matches.
1) Competitors must be dressed in suitable tennis attire that is almost entirely white and this applies from the point at which the player enters the court surround.
2) White does not include off white or cream.
3) There should be no solid mass or panel of colouring. A single trim of colour around the neckline and around the cuff of the sleeve is acceptable but must be no wider than one centimetre (10mm).
4) Colour contained within patterns will be measured as if it is a solid mass of colour and should be within the one centimetre (10mm) guide. Logos formed by variations of material or patterns are not acceptable.
5) The back of a shirt, dress, tracksuit top or sweater must be totally white.
6) Shorts, skirts and tracksuit bottoms must be totally white except for a single trim of colour down the outside seam no wider than one centimetre (10mm).
7) Caps, headbands, bandanas, wristbands and socks must be totally white except for a single trim of colour no wider than one centimetre (10mm).
8) Shoes must be almost entirely white, including the soles. Large manufacturers’ logos are not encouraged. The grass court shoes must adhere to the Grand Slam rules ( see Grand Slam rulebook for more ). In particular shoes with pimples around the outside of the toes shall not be permitted. The foxing around the toes must be smooth.
9) Any undergarments that either are or can be visible during play (including due to perspiration) must also be completely white except for a single trim of colour no wider than one centimetre (10mm). In addition, common standards of decency are required at all times.
10) Medical supports and equipment should be white if possible but may be coloured if absolutely necessary.



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27-08-2018, 07:09 AM
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Re: Is banning serenas cat suit the same as banning the burka?

Originally Posted by Surfermom ->
What if it was white? Would that be ok? As a ancient aging athlete, I saw this a little differently.

The first thing I thought was that Serena was either running the risk of blood clots or needed the compression tights to support her knees and shoulders. I don't think this cat suit is about the looks, but either to prevent or recover from some injury or condition. It's tamer than some of the other outfits she's worn in the past.

When it comes down to it, players need to respect decorum, but it's equally important that they wear uniforms that maximize their ability to perform and minimize injury, chafing, etc. Perhaps the compromise is a white skirt over white compression tights?

Pretty, but not fun returning a 120 MPH serve in this:
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There is a thin line between chafing and chaving.
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27-08-2018, 08:59 AM
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Re: Is banning serenas cat suit the same as banning the burka?

It could be argued that white is not actually a colour.
White people are pinky "flesh" coloured not white at all. If they wore "flesh" coloured clothing they would appear naked which would distract players even more.
 
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