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14-07-2021, 03:05 PM
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Re: Homelessness

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It's all in the wording. Being homeless doesn't necessarily mean living rough, there are plenty of homeless people couch surfing or living in shelters.

Australia and the UK decided to get rid of mental institutions many, many years ago (1990s) in favour of smaller accommodations so the governments happily closed the Asylums but forgot about the promised community based mental health care.

Many of the people living on the streets should have been in institutions or community mental health care but have ended up on the street. it is largely a matter of funding.

I don't think Covid has made much difference especially with the moratorium on evictions

Agree 100% with that Brucy !!

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14-07-2021, 03:29 PM
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Re: Homelessness

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Agree 100% with that Brucy !!

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The bottom line remains that in the UK living rough is a matter of CHOICE.
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14-07-2021, 03:34 PM
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Re: Homelessness

Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
The bottom line remains that in the UK living rough is a matter of CHOICE.
In some cases, the only " choice" Todgy !!

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14-07-2021, 04:03 PM
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Re: Homelessness

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In some cases, the only " choice" Todgy !!

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Only as a result of their own choice or actions. Either way they've ploughed their own furrow.
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14-07-2021, 04:17 PM
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Re: Homelessness

Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
The bottom line remains that in the UK living rough is a matter of CHOICE.

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Some slip through the net I believe ,the ones with mental health issues.
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14-07-2021, 04:18 PM
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Re: Homelessness

Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
Only as a result of their own choice or actions. Either way they've ploughed their own furrow.
They have indeed, very sad,

But surely not all, who have mental health issues.
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14-07-2021, 04:20 PM
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Re: Homelessness

Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
Only as a result of their own choice or actions. Either way they've ploughed their own furrow.
You just don't get it do you Todgy?
Some people are unable to make rational decisions due to mental issues!
Your answer to this is to get them sectioned, well, unless they show
violence, the the police will not respond !
And the doctors all say not to section them as it can cause further
complications ??
So what to do??
No answers from NHS or various help web sites either !!

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14-07-2021, 04:31 PM
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Re: Homelessness

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
You just don't get it do you Todgy?
Some people are unable to make rational decisions due to mental issues!
Your answer to this is to get them sectioned, well, unless they show
violence, the the police will not respond !
And the doctors all say not to section them as it can cause further
complications ??
So what to do??
No answers from NHS or various help web sites either !!

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Then basically tough. However what you describe is not quite correct. The police in the UK have a legal duty of care and if in doubt DO take people into custody in order to establish what is wrong with them. If they are found to be unstable such people ARE sectioned and assessed. During that process they ARE held in secure accommodation and if deemed necessary are directed in various ways that include being treated and rehabilitated into society in various ways.

THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO NEED FOR ANYONE TO LIVE IN THE GUTTER IN THE UK.
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14-07-2021, 05:11 PM
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Re: Homelessness

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No it isn't. You don't know anything about why a person lives on the streets, so making a sweeping statement like that is absolute tosh.
Pixie, I completely agree. Very many of the homeless here in the U.S. are severely mentally ill. Poor buggers are seen walking around and loudly talking to the sky, trees etc.

PS: unfortunately there are people right here on OFF who have absolutely no compassion for their fellow man.
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14-07-2021, 05:19 PM
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Re: Homelessness

Originally Posted by bakerman ->
Pixie, I completely agree. Very many of the homeless here in the U.S. are severely mentally ill. Poor buggers are seen walking around and loudly talking to the sky, trees etc.

PS: unfortunately there are people right here on OFF who have absolutely no compassion for their fellow man.
it is NOT the same in the UK.
 
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