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It matters because of the huge upsurge in violence and crime from non-indigenous people in this country of late. It matters very much.
So would you feel it was less important if it had been a white male who was born here?
I want the law in this country to treat everybody equally because, if it didn't, aren't we just doing what the black people in the USA believe their police are doing?
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25-09-2020, 11:42 AM
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What a waste to treat this man in hospital .
It would be better all round if he died .
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25-09-2020, 12:12 PM
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So would you feel it was less important if it had been a white male who was born here?
I want the law in this country to treat everybody equally because, if it didn't, aren't we just doing what the black people in the USA believe their police are doing?
I would feel it less important if it was a British born white male for the simple reason that it would not be an example of further advancement of a sector of the population that is becoming more "active"

I want the justice system to take into account not only to address offenses in an equitable manner but also to include a component to address the need to provide a disincentive where a sector of the population are behaving in a particularly atypical way which is patently obvious in BAME criminality.

That's not racist. That's ensuring that punishment fits both the crime and trends where they exist.
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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
I would feel it less important if it was a British born white male for the simple reason that it would not be an example of further advancement of a sector of the population that is becoming more "active"

I want the justice system to take into account not only to address offenses in an equitable manner but also to include a component to address the need to provide a disincentive where a sector of the population are behaving in a particularly atypical way which is patently obvious in BAME criminality.

That's not racist. That's ensuring that punishment fits both the crime and trends where they exist.
Just as well because this forum could be in trouble if we displayed obvious racist behavior. That it why it is better not to post strongly motivated comments!
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So would you feel it was less important if it had been a white male who was born here?
I want the law in this country to treat everybody equally because, if it didn't, aren't we just doing what the black people in the USA believe their police are doing?
As yet, we don't know what colour he is but looking at it from a police point of view, they must be very worried about handcuffing a black person at the moment.
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25-09-2020, 12:40 PM
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As yet, we don't know what colour he is but looking at it from a police point of view, they must be very worried about handcuffing a black person at the moment.
I think you're probably right.
If that is the case, it demonstrates beyond any doubt that treating 'certain people' differently to the indigenous white population is a seriously flawed attitude.

Everyone in this country should be treated equally, 'without fear or favour'. Now where have I heard that before?

And yes, I hope the perpetrator dies in hospital which would save us all a lot of trouble and expense. If he survives, he should be hanged.
I do believe that hanging will, eventually, be reinstated. Perhaps not in my lifetime, sadly, but eventually. Things just need to become a little worse, which I'm sure they will.
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Just as well because this forum could be in trouble if we displayed obvious racist behavior. That it why it is better not to post strongly motivated comments!
I'm not a racist, Just a realist. Go figure.
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25-09-2020, 12:46 PM
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Hi

Simple

Somebody made a mistake.

He was taken in in a Police Vehicle.

He was not searched properly.

Inexcusable.
Do you think that the anti stop and search brigade influenced this decision?
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25-09-2020, 12:54 PM
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From what we hear it seems the police have paid the price of not
following basic procedures in arresting this guy ??
We can now see plainly the reasons for having these procedures?
Questions that will be asked,(l hope?) Will be,
Was he searched and handcuffed BEFORE putting him into the police
car?
If so,Why were they searching him again in the station yard?
How did he get access to the weapon if he was cuffed as required?
Etc! Etc!
I think police procedures will now be jacked up right across the
country after this?

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Do you think that the anti stop and search brigade influenced this decision?
No doubt about that Judd !!

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