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It was a case of mistaken identity the terrorist suspect lived in the flat above him .
It was sad and a huge blunder on the part of the police .
However imo there is no comparison with deleiberately mowing down men women and children with a vehicle or stabbing them with a knife .
You are right there is no comparison which is why I didn't suggest that the murderers of Menezes be shot, I suggested they should be charged in accordance with the law.
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17-07-2019, 11:46 AM
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Bruce you live in Australia and therefore think that all is done according to the law.
Having lived abroad most of my life I would say usually the police are a law unto themselves and stick together like the proverbial to a blanket.
Especially when they have made a mistake.
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Islam is the only religion whose 'martyers ' seem intent on taking innocent defenceless unbelievers with them .
If they are so intent on Paradise why not attack an army barracks or better still just shoot themselves in the head ,
Suicide is a huge no-no in Islam. Dying during an attack on enemies of Islam is not. They absolutely believe that if it is the will of allah that they should survive then the allah thing has rejected their martyrdom. If they die then it's straight to paradise. It's why calling the foul SOB's suicide bombers.

They're not.

They're homicide bombers.

In any case the victims are not innocent. If they support the attackers of muslims they are just as guilty as the actual attackers and unless people do not act against the supporters of those who attack muslims then they too are guilty.

It's a case of "being with us or against us". Most people simply do not understand islam.

I do.
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17-07-2019, 01:46 PM
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Even the prophet Mohammed ( PBUH) would seriously disapprove of mowing down women and children walking down the street .
I have lived in Islamic countries for over 25 years .Muslims are the same as any other people some are good others not so good .
These are fanatics .
They need to be eliminated .
Most are young under 35
Older people followers of Islam or not don't want to throw away their lives for the risky chance of a possible after life .
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Suicide is a huge no-no in Islam. Dying during an attack on enemies of Islam is not. They absolutely believe that if it is the will of allah that they should survive then the allah thing has rejected their martyrdom. If they die then it's straight to paradise. It's why calling the foul SOB's suicide bombers.

They're not.

They're homicide bombers.

In any case the victims are not innocent. If they support the attackers of muslims they are just as guilty as the actual attackers and unless people do not act against the supporters of those who attack muslims then they too are guilty.

It's a case of "being with us or against us". Most people simply do not understand islam.

I do.
Well good for you! The only thing I understand is that Muslims have been welcomed here ( look at all the Pakistanis who have been allowed to make the UK their home), but not since they have wanted to make this their Caliphate & introduce their religious laws here!
Any religion that allows punishments like

Stoning people to death.

Raping a mans sisters because he has committed adultery.

Allowing marriage with girls who are barely through puberty.

Preventing their daughters life being saved from drowning, because they don't want a lifeguard to touch her.

Killing your own daughter because she will not marry the man you choose.

Sharia laws are disgraceful & any religion that allows them to take place should never be allowed to be practiced in a country where women have fought long & hard to be treated equally.
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17-07-2019, 02:15 PM
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Re: Attackers lawfully killed

Originally Posted by Muddy ->
Even the prophet Mohammed ( PBUH) would seriously disapprove of mowing down women and children walking down the street .
I have lived in Islamic countries for over 25 years .Muslims are the same as any other people some are good others not so good .
These are fanatics .
They need to be eliminated .
Most are young under 35
Older people followers of Islam or not don't want to throw away their lives for the risky chance of a possible after life .
Nevertheless it is and would be islamic.
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17-07-2019, 02:56 PM
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It might be Islamic but not every Muslim lives in the Middle Ages and strive in all things to be 'Islamic'
Similarly all day to day Christians by default don't have a Bible Belt mentality .
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Re: Attackers lawfully killed

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It might be Islamic but not every Muslim lives in the Middle Ages and strive in all things to be 'Islamic'
Similarly all day to day Christians by default don't have a Bible Belt mentality .
There is absolutely no common ground between islam and true Christianity.

None at all
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They recognise some of the same prophets .
 
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