09-06-2019, 08:15 AM
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Re: All the Queen's Horses.....
Originally Posted by Bruce
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She obviously read the book our PM gave her on his recent visit and insisted all the horses look as good.
Actually I doubt they would be pure breed Shires, the males are too strong to be used as individuals they are probably bred with a smaller breed with a better temperament like Clydedales. I am guessing.
(My mother's family was one of the foremost breeders of Shires before the war - she used to tell me about them and she bore the scar where one kicked her)
Usually the horses are geldings but one ( Talavera ) is a mare .
Two of the present drum horses are Perseus 17.1 hands ( shire ) and Talavera 17.3 ( shire)
Clydesdales are not a smaller breed at all one of the drum horses Ademas is a pure Clydesdale and is 19 .3 just about as tall as a horse can get.
A man I knew who used to breed Clydesdales got kicked by a foal ( it broke his leg !
There is now a society of 'drum horses ' certainly in America ( don t know about the uk I haven't heard of them)
These are smaller and are animals breed with the gipsy vanner and are more of a type than an actual breed perhaps that is what you are thinking of .
This is Perseus
09-06-2019, 12:55 PM
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Re: All the Queen's Horses.....
Originally Posted by Muddy
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Bruce the Queen breeds her own shire horses .Usually the horses are geldings but one ( Talavera ) is a mare .
Two of the present drum horses are Perseus 17.1 hands ( shire ) and Talavera 17.3 ( shire)
Clydesdales are not a smaller breed at all one of the drum horses Ademas is a pure Clydesdale and is 19 .3 just about as tall as a horse can get.
A man I knew who used to breed Clydesdales got kicked by a foal ( it broke his leg !
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I am not an expert on this but I do know that Clydesdales are a much lighter breed than Shires the latter are renowned as the "world's largest horse". It might well be that geldings are rideable I don't know but my mother always said that stallions were never ridden and only used harnessed and pulling something bloody heavy. She used to ride the mares (sidesaddle).
But I bow to you and Mr Google's superior knowledge of heavy horses.
11-06-2019, 04:28 PM
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Re: All the Queen's Horses.....
Bruce I have worked with horses all of my life .Including shire horses .
I don't need to google what I know
These are huge heavy horses and like all horses some are playful and others quiet and like any horse need to be trained .
It takes a good few years of patient training to become a drum horse
A large horse hurts more when it treads on your toe.
A Clydesdale is generally as tall or taller its more ' on the leg ' than shires ie the shire has a more barrel like appearance .
I would certainly not describe them as a light horse .
Many male horses are gelded unless being kept for breeding as this makes them more tractable and trainable .
There are many exceptions to this.
Ie There are many stallion in dressage because the stallion generally has greater presence .
In Spain and other countries many people ride Stallions for their proud and spirited demeanour .
People like an eye catching mount .
In Arabic countries mares were more prized as they could sneak up on the enemy quietly . Stallions are noisy and would betray an ambush
They are all beautiful to me.
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