20-12-2018, 02:35 PM
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Re: Why are people so surprised?
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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They have been debating endlessly because nobody made a plan for the future when the referendum was run. It's nothing to do with remainers this or that. It's down to poor planning.The NHS was promised money on the basis that we do not crash out. The ten year plan announcement was put on hold while the vote on the deal was delayed. If we crash out that funding promise is likely to change. The chancellor said so at the time of the budget.
20-12-2018, 02:44 PM
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Re: Why are people so surprised?
Originally Posted by Julie1962
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I don't deny the planning has been poor I was more talking about the debate on OFF we have been in a loop of arguing same things so long we haven't ever actually had any chat about what we'd like to happen next. Doomed to repeat why we wanted to leave and why we didn't.
1. Parliament to go ahead with an outright Brexit.
2. Parliament to put in place immediately the necessary provisions for doing so.
3. All MPs who have been attempting to keep us in the EU, contrary to a clear vote to leave, be de-selected and by-elections run in their constituencies.
4. A new political party to be established with a clear mandate to ensure that regular referenda are offered to the general public. This should be done in good time for the next general election.
5. The House of Lords to be disestablished.
Not asking for much, am I?
20-12-2018, 02:47 PM
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Re: Why are people so surprised?
Originally Posted by JBR
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OK, I'll start the ball rolling. I'd like to see:1. Parliament to go ahead with an outright leave.
2. Parliament to put in place immediately the necessary provisions for doing so.
3. All MPs who have been attempting to keep us in the EU, contrary to a clear vote to leave, be de-selected and by-elections run in their constituencies.
4. A new political party to be established with a clear mandate to ensure that regular referenda are offered to the general public. This should be done in good time for the next general election.
5. The House of Lords to be disestablished.
Not asking for much, am I?
20-12-2018, 02:53 PM
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Re: Why are people so surprised?
Originally Posted by Julie1962
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I'd vote for all of that JBR I'd go further and trim down our royal family and set up a cross party committee to deal with providing housing, NHS etc al the things that shouldn't be political footballs. And renationalise our utilities and transport.
The rest of them can maintain themselves or get a job... especially the York girls!
20-12-2018, 02:59 PM
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Re: Why are people so surprised?
Originally Posted by JBR
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Re. the Royal Family, I'd agree to maintain the Civil List for the Queen, Phil the Greek and (unfortunately) Charlie Boy.The rest of them can maintain themselves or get a job... especially the York girls!
20-12-2018, 03:19 PM
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Re: Why are people so surprised?
Originally Posted by Julie1962
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set up a cross party committee to deal with providing housing, NHS etc al the things that shouldn't be political footballs.
20-12-2018, 03:42 PM
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Re: Why are people so surprised?
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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How will a cross party committee dealing with these things take them out of the political arena?
20-12-2018, 04:02 PM
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Re: Why are people so surprised?
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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How will a cross party committee dealing with these things take them out of the political arena?
It won't, Marxism does not sit easily with other political ideologies.
As for other things on the wish list?
Where is the money coming from to re nationalise?
20-12-2018, 04:04 PM
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Re: Why are people so surprised?
Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiIt won't, Marxism does not sit easily with other political ideologies.
As for other things on the wish list?
Where is the money coming from to re nationalise?
20-12-2018, 04:28 PM
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Re: Why are people so surprised?
Originally Posted by Julie1962
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Because I'd say put people in that committee understand the subject at the moment it's done one way under one party then another comes along and changes it all again. Why not have all parties all views and make decisions that will carry on for many many years or only change when something better is thought of and agreed. Education would benefit from that approach too.
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