09-09-2020, 10:29 PM
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Thanks Havenview. That seems to confirm that there is no way to remotely turn off a non smart meter. However, it does appear that smart meters have the functionality to remotely turn them off. The fact that it's not enabled right now doesn't mean it will stay that way and it also means that cyber criminals could hack in and turn your power off for their own twisted reasons.
09-09-2020, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by annies
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thanks havenview. That seems to confirm that there is no way to remotely turn off a non smart meter. However, it does appear that smart meters have the functionality to remotely turn them off. The fact that it's not enabled right now doesn't mean it will stay that way and it also means that cyber criminals could hack in and turn your power off for their own twisted reasons.
09-09-2020, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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Can't beat an Avo 8.
09-09-2020, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Besoeker
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I don't know about Ozze land. For USA, it is usual to have 120V/240V. UK is uk residential. My usual field is 400V/11,000V .
10-09-2020, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Bruce
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Same as UK 240v 50hz but without the daft ring mains and ginormous fused plugs
These include leading earth connection and in addition the ability to insert a safety fusesable link from between 1amp to 13 amp carrying capacity depending on the power requirements of the device connected. That's a very worthwhile feature in itself and reduces a potential fire hazard. Mechanically the cable anchor is exceptionally good too.
The nearest to the type G was the now obsolete Wylex plug top. Now there was a horse specified by a committee!
10-09-2020, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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Nothing daft about ring mains, and the 13 amp plug tops (type G) are used in a number of other countries because of the safety features they offer.
10-09-2020, 09:23 AM
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''Gas and electricity companies cannot cut off your supply unless they have first offered you a range of payment methods to help you pay. They must only disconnect your supply as a last resort and they must give you proper notice first.''
10-09-2020, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS
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Thanks Havenview. That seems to confirm that there is no way to remotely turn off a non smart meter. However, it does appear that smart meters have the functionality to remotely turn them off. The fact that it's not enabled right now doesn't mean it will stay that way and it also means that cyber criminals could hack in and turn your power off for their own twisted reasons.
There are two percieved elements of "turn it off" that are being discussed here
The meter (smart or otherwise) is NOT able to disconnect the supply, it will always pass the current
The metering function has TWO elements, the MEASURING part which collects your kilowatt hours you use (just like a dumb meter) and the TRANSMISSION function which sends the reading at a set time to serve the billing and useage systems
Any DISABLE feture of a smart meter only effects the TRANSMISSION section. If this is disabled the meter still forms an uninterrupted function of the measuring, acting in the exact same way as a dumb meter - you could still look at the display and it would show you the units as normal
How often the TRANSMISSION function operates (and lets remove the "Big Brother" aspects here) is set by the end user in negotiation with their provider.
In the series 1 meters, the transmission allocation was set to a single provider and if you wanted to change provider then you would need a new meter that would "talk" to the new provider. If that swap of meter was not performed then the existing smart meter was "disabled" as per the description above and hence making the smart meter dumb and relying on manual readings.
With Series 2 meters, the readings are sent to a metering provider (a Data Communications Company - Capita PLC I believe) and the energy suppliers obtain the meter readings from them hence no subsequent meter swap is required for provider changes.
There is one massive advantage of smart meters in that it allows the National Grid the ability to monitor requirements and predict demand much more accurately. This allows them to run the grid more accurately and more efficiently which is becoming much more crutial.
10-09-2020, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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These include leading earth connection and in addition the ability to insert a safety fusesable link from between 1amp to 13 amp carrying capacity depending on the power requirements of the device connected. That's a very worthwhile feature in itself and reduces a potential fire hazard. Mechanically the cable anchor is exceptionally good too.
The inconvenient shuttered socket is necessary because the pins are far too big and the holes would be dangerous to small fingers.
Leading earth pin is nothing special ours have that too.
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