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Re: Moving abroad - What will happen after Brexit

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Easy, they get a non Drivers Licence/Photo ID from the same place that issues all licences.

https://www.service.nsw.gov.au/trans...nsw-photo-card
Fair enough.

If you antipodean colonies can do it, I'm sure we could... with half-decent leadership.

I don't suppose you could persuade your government to do one of those 'exchange visits' with ours?
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Fair enough.

If you antipodean colonies can do it, I'm sure we could... with half-decent leadership.

I don't suppose you could persuade your government to do one of those 'exchange visits' with ours?
It would be difficult to convince me that our government is that much better, after all we have had six PMs in the last 5 years but we have had some really good governments in the past for brief but magical decades say 1983 to about 2005.

I think the sad thing for Britain is that it has never had effective leadership - certainly not since the war - that is a long time to just be drifting.
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Just for the record, and it pains me to waste my time on a troll, but you are not on 'ignore'; I just choose not to interact with you.

However, and I know this will be difficult for one who can only communicate in simple offensive phrases, I shall answer your question.

As mayor, he could have influenced the way the police service (not police force for obvious reasons) is run. For starters, they could stop taking the easy option of responding to 'harsh words' on places such as Twitter, and deal with real crime. He could, I'm sure, overrule the PC idiots who run the police service these days.

Now, my apologies for presenting you with more words than you are used to. I assure you that this will not happen again.
Oh you do disappoint me.
None of what you have suggested there would make any difference at all. I don't think it is even in the Mayor's remit to do so anyway.
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06-11-2018, 10:57 AM
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Re: Moving abroad - What will happen after Brexit

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It would be difficult to convince me that our government is that much better, after all we have had six PMs in the last 5 years but we have had some really good governments in the past for brief but magical decades say 1983 to about 2005.

I think the sad thing for Britain is that it has never had effective leadership - certainly not since the war - that is a long time to just be drifting.
I agree, although I always thought Maggie was an effective leader. Had she been handling Brexit, rather than this treacherous woman, I feel we'd have been dictating to them rather than the reverse.
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06-11-2018, 12:11 PM
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Re: Moving abroad - What will happen after Brexit

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Easy, they get a non Drivers Licence/Photo ID from the same place that issues all licences.

https://www.service.nsw.gov.au/trans...nsw-photo-card
So basically you got the ID cards you didn't want but some people's ID cards permit them to drive.
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06-11-2018, 10:42 PM
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So basically you got the ID cards you didn't want but some people's ID cards permit them to drive.
Pretty much.

Except that Driving licences are issued by each state not by the Federal government (who issue passports) and, if you are a pensioner in NSW, are free.
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06-11-2018, 11:28 PM
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Re: Moving abroad - What will happen after Brexit

Bearing in mind how easy and inexpensive it is to obtain a (British) passport, I'm surprised that there isn't an equally easy and inexpensive method of obtaining an ID card for those who don't, for whatever reason, want a passport.

As for the authorities, why don't they want to bring in the idea of a national identification document?

The system is already present in the Passport Office. It would be easy, and probably cheaper, for them to issue IDs following the necessary checks that they do for passports.

It could achieve any number of things: claiming benefits, accessing healthcare, etc., and would solve the problem of illegals obtaining things to which they are not entitled.

There will always be a minority who, perhaps on principle (or because they have something to hide!), would refuse to apply for ID. I think they'd soon change their minds, though!
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Oh...It`s coming. Compulsory ID cards. Probably by around 2020, a referendum on it will suddenly be sprung on everybody. By that time, it would be more acceptable on principle. The premise being...''Be identified. Show that you are proud to be British...''....!!
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Re: Moving abroad - What will happen after Brexit

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Oh...It`s coming. Compulsory ID cards. Probably by around 2020, a referendum on it will suddenly be sprung on everybody. By that time, it would be more acceptable on principle. The premise being...''Be identified. Show that you are proud to be British...''....!!
I hope so. I shall certainly vote for them. It's for our own protection.

I'd say that the only people who are not in favour are criminals and illegals...
oh, and snowflakes!
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I hope so. I shall certainly vote for them. It's for our own protection.

I'd say that the only people who are not in favour are criminals and illegals...
oh, and snowflakes!
I should say that while driving licences have become our de-facto ID there is no compulsion to carry them (except when driving) nor do you have to prove who you are (except when opening a bank account)

Having said that they are very convenient as a form of Photo ID, in fact the most common use of them as ID is to gain entry to a registered club if you are not a member.
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