Re: A U-turn by Barnier ?

We come to the realisation that it doesn't matter who you vote for because the system itself is corrupt. Any vote for the main parties is a vote for the EU.

We have to reject that system plain and simple.

One way is for everyone to vote consistently as a PROTEST VOTE. That needs to be done carefully in a structured way with everyone spoiling their ballot papers in the same specific way.

The way to do this is described in this dedicated website :

http://www.votenone.org.uk/protest_votes_count.html

Go check it out.


If 75% of the voting populous all spoilt their ballot papers in this way, voting for "none of the above" then parliament would have to sit up and take notice and do something.


Another option is for people to create a new "Change Politics" Party whose sole aim would be to abolish the fake system we currently have that just sees the EU agenda furthered every time, and instead put forward options for a new system and then gives the people a referendum on which system to adopt.

Options could include a Referendum System where ALL major issues are put to the people to decide. That for example would have meant we would vote on whether to go to war in Iraq, whether to go to war in Afghanistan, Israel etc. We could vote on whether to abolish the NHS, whether to put funding towards health, or schools, disability or something else.

Another option would be a Constitution System where we abolish all political parties and instead simply have parliamentary jobs where candidates have to apply and the public get to vote who gets the job. We set out a clear constitution for the country, have it documented and enshrined in law and legislation such that no parliament, no individual can ever ignore it or operate against it with the appropriate penalties in place for those breaking those laws.
We ensure that the Constitution mandates what the country wants, preserves its freedoms, freedom of speech, innocent until proved guilty, its primary religion (if there is to be one at all), the rights of its citizens vs those of immigrants and so on. Really shouldn't be too hard to do.


I'm sure people far more gifted than myself could come up with better fairer and less divisive systems than the sham we currently have.


One thing is for sure. We can no longer run with what we have. We can no longer continued to be duped by the Lib/Lab/Con fake system which serves the EU.

We HAVE to do something different. We have to bring about change in the right way.

BrExit is just the beginning. There is much to do.

Restoring the British Constitution is an integral part.

https://www.britishconstitutiongroup.com/

Re: A U-turn by Barnier ?

LDV went out of business in 2008 and the intellectual property rights were sold to Chinese company SAIC in 2010.

Re: A U-turn by Barnier ?

Don't think the chinese feel much loyalty to british workers, won't you agree? Since 2017 in eindhoven four bmw series are assembled. It is able to assemble other brands, so should jaguar want to move to the mainland, they are welcome.

Re: A U-turn by Barnier ?

None at all but I'll agree it makes a nonsense of your suggestion the Netherlands will benefit from a move by LDV to The Netherlands. Leyland Trucks does still exist btw but are now owned by an American company. Proper nouns deserve a capital letter btw.

Re: A U-turn by Barnier ?

You don't think that if ldv comes to the netherlands the assembly of their cars will be free of charge? Whether chinese or americans pay is of no importance.
Isn't there an understanding on this forum that grammatics etc. will not be an issue to be discussed?

Re: A U-turn by Barnier ?

DAF NV went bust in 1993, they won't be manufacturing anything, apparently the EU couldn't help them.

Re: A U-turn by Barnier ?

Yes, that was mainly due to the 1987 takeover of leyland. Their productivity was too low to fulfull the rising demand for daf trucks. After 1996 they went on as daf trucks nv. The van producing division went on as ldv.
In 2012 the proces of faissement was completed. Today daf has facilities in eindhoven (main facility), westerlo belgium, leyland in great britain and ponta grossa brasil.
Since you are so interested, on this site you can watch the assembling of the bmw x-1 in eindhoven.
http://www.vdlnedcar.nl

Re: A U-turn by Barnier ?

Well I'm still waiting to hear more of Nigel Farage's new Brexit party!

Re: A U-turn by Barnier ?

Thanks. That will be very useful.