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27-05-2019, 09:23 AM
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Re: Tory party - no hard BREXIT.

Originally Posted by Solasch ->
Oops my mistake. Thank god it was never used!
Back to the thread title guys!
Solly? You havent answered my last post on the subject
ot TORY PARTY-NO BREXIT? We were discussing the prospect
of a no deal brexit under the cuurrent parliament?
I am firmly of the opinion that nodeal is now the only option
open to uk due to the cock up the remainers have caused!
I also put my opinion why no deal would not be as bad as
remainers are projecting, and l stated why this would be so!
If you could give a reasoned answer to my proposition
I would be happy counter it!

Regards Donkeyman!
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27-05-2019, 09:43 AM
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Re: Tory party - no hard BREXIT.

The general population of Europe is not the EU, the businesses and working people of Europe will only go so far with the obsessive nature of the EU to make an example of the UK.

At some point there will be an uprising of those same Businesses and working people of Europe to put an end to this ridiculous situation we find ourselves in, and looking at the result of this recent election I believe it has started.....
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27-05-2019, 02:16 PM
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Re: Tory party - no hard BREXIT.

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
Back to the thread title guys!
Solly? You havent answered my last post on the subject
ot TORY PARTY-NO BREXIT? We were discussing the prospect
of a no deal brexit under the cuurrent parliament?
I am firmly of the opinion that nodeal is now the only option
open to uk due to the cock up the remainers have caused!
I also put my opinion why no deal would not be as bad as
remainers are projecting, and l stated why this would be so!
If you could give a reasoned answer to my proposition
I would be happy counter it!

Regards Donkeyman!
No deal brexit under this parliament? Hammond has said that a tory pm will be voted down by the conservatives if he/she heads for this option. Parliament as a whole doesn't want no deal exit.
That leaves revoking article 50, and happily living in the EU forever after.
If you counter, please exclude revolutions and other fictuous options the UK has no heart for.
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28-05-2019, 11:19 AM
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Re: Tory party - no hard BREXIT.

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
All conjecture Bread!
Is the EU going to stop trading with a country that has
a 90 billion trading deficit with it, and also on top of that
a considerable membership fee to pay?
I think not! Unless they are deranged!
That our present rulers, ( include all political parties in this )
cannot see this speaks volumes for their lack of COMMON
sense!
I would prefer a trade deal, but not on any terms!

Regards Donkeyman!
Sorry Donkeyman that's just typical emotional/wishful leaver thinking.

The point is we (and Ireland) will be far more damaged by no deal than any other member. They know it and we know it.


They also know that UK leaving with a good deal poses an existential threat for the whole EU project which is far more important than the UK.


If we leave with no deal where will we buy our meds and food from? How long before we run out?


How humiliating will it be when we have to go back begging?
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28-05-2019, 12:03 PM
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Re: Tory party - no hard BREXIT.

Originally Posted by Reality1 ->
Sorry Donkeyman that's just typical emotional/wishful leaver thinking.

The point is we (and Ireland) will be far more damaged by no deal than any other member. They know it and we know it.


They also know that UK leaving with a good deal poses an existential threat for the whole EU project which is far more important than the UK.


If we leave with no deal where will we buy our meds and food from? How long before we run out?


How humiliating will it be when we have to go back begging?

How will the EU stop Germany and France and Italy etc trading with us exactly ?
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28-05-2019, 12:09 PM
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Re: Tory party - no hard BREXIT.

Originally Posted by Solasch ->
No deal brexit under this parliament? Hammond has said that a tory pm will be voted down by the conservatives if he/she heads for this option. Parliament as a whole doesn't want no deal exit.
That leaves revoking article 50, and happily living in the EU forever after.
If you counter, please exclude revolutions and other fictuous options the UK has no heart for.
Sorry Solly! I did'nt mention coming out with no deal under
this current parliament because, as you explain it will be
very unlikely! The only way it could happen with them in
Charge is if they faff around too long and the time limit
imposed by EU comes into effect and we are allowed to fall
out automatically! But we also know that for obvious reasons
EU will not allow this! So, now we come to a general election
This is where we hope to be rid of our hated POSHOC and
reinstate a working majority in parliament!
This will lead to a no deal brexit?
The likelyhood of this happening increase by the day l am
happy to say
I hope you make sense of my text so far l think you are
intelligent enough to understand my use of the POSHOC
acronymn!

Regards Donkeyman!
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28-05-2019, 12:16 PM
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Re: Tory party - no hard BREXIT.

Originally Posted by Bread ->
How will the EU stop Germany and France and Italy etc trading with us exactly ?
Thanks for answering for me Bread! Could'nt do better
myself! l cant believe people are still pushing project fear??

Best Regards Donkeyman!
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28-05-2019, 12:34 PM
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Re: Tory party - no hard BREXIT.

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
Thanks for answering for me Bread! Could'nt do better
myself! l cant believe people are still pushing project fear??

Best Regards Donkeyman!


The WTO is there for a reason.
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28-05-2019, 01:17 PM
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Re: Tory party - no hard BREXIT.

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
Thanks for answering for me Bread! Could'nt do better
myself! l cant believe people are still pushing project fear??

Best Regards Donkeyman!
We agree that after brexit you are a non-EU country? In that case:

The European Union manages its trade and investment relations with non-EU countries through its trade and investment policy.

Trade outside the EU is an exclusive responsibility of the EU, rather than the national governments of member countries. This means the EU institutions make laws on trade matters, negotiate and conclude international trade agreements.

The EU's responsibilities cover:

trade in*goods and servicesthe commercial aspects of*intellectual property, such as patentspublic procurementforeign direct investment

Article 207 of the*Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union*sets out the rules on EU trade policy.
http://ec.europa.eu/trade/policy/policy-making/
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28-05-2019, 01:23 PM
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Re: Tory party - no hard BREXIT.

Originally Posted by Solasch ->
We agree that after brexit you are a non-EU country? In that case:

The European Union manages its trade and investment relations with non-EU countries through its trade and investment policy.

Trade outside the EU is an exclusive responsibility of the EU, rather than the national governments of member countries. This means the EU institutions make laws on trade matters, negotiate and conclude international trade agreements.

The EU's responsibilities cover:

trade in*goods and servicesthe commercial aspects of*intellectual property, such as patentspublic procurementforeign direct investment

Article 207 of the*Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union*sets out the rules on EU trade policy.
http://ec.europa.eu/trade/policy/policy-making/
Nice and democratic..... just like we saw in the Singapore Agreement
 
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