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Robert Mueller: Charging Trump was not an option

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US Special Counsel Robert Mueller has said charging President Donald Trump with a crime was not an option, in his first comments on the Russia inquiry.

He reiterated that his report did not exonerate the president and that legal guidelines prevent the indictment of a sitting president.

He emphasised, however, that if Mr Trump was clearly innocent, his report would have said so. It didn't.

His 448-page report said it had not established that the Trump campaign criminally conspired with Russia to influence the election.

However, it did detail 10 instances where Mr Trump had possibly attempted to impede the investigation.
The next step, logically, would be impeachment of the President, but Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi has insisted that the investigatory process continue in multiple congressional committees. Impeachment would derail these efforts, she says, focusing all attention on the House Judiciary Committee alone.

What's more, she adds, impeachment is exactly what Mr Trump wants. She says he can use it to drum up support in his base and will claim complete victory and exoneration when the Republican-controlled Senate almost certainly acquits him.
So, for the foreeable future, Trump stays .....
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So, for the foreeable future, Trump stays .....
Good.
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So, for the foreeable future, Trump stays .....
Impediment and collusion are poles apart.

the first is a slap on the wrist the other is execution.
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Sure Trump obstructed justice, yet we can't indict a sitting president.
Now.....the easy answer is to start impeachment. Think about this:

Trump wanted to win the election, a contest to see how much he was liked.
He never wanted the BE the president, too many responsibilities and he doesn't have a clue about political policy. So, he won the contest.....now, he's between a rock and a hard place.

He would like the impeachment option. It would get him out of the presidency, back to being a celebrity, and could use the "pity me, they all were out to get me" routine to escape. He'd keep his followers, and he'd still be popular using his hangdog face.
BUT - If Congress allows him to complete his term, he will have to do some presidential business, pass legislature, deal with the tariff situation that he made, deal with the border wall/immigration issue that he brought to the forefront, and now must explain why children are dying because he can't deal with fixing the problem, only the wall. He's also hanging himself with his mouth flapping with praise for all of the most despicable leaders in the world....while badmouthing our own experts in the FBI, CIA, Defense, etc.
He announces he's the best president we've ever had. He wants praise and notoriety, well.....he's going to have the notoriety in our history books as the most inept president in history.

Let him continue digging his hole until the next election. By then, even his followers will see what a sham this person is, and always was. The arrow in his heart and head will be that the voters turn away and let him see what a loser he is. For Trump, it's all about winning and losing. Not integrity, dignity, morals, or truth.
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Sure Trump obstructed justice, yet we can't indict a sitting president.
Now.....the easy answer is to start impeachment. Think about this:

Trump wanted to win the election, a contest to see how much he was liked.
He never wanted the BE the president, too many responsibilities and he doesn't have a clue about political policy. So, he won the contest.....now, he's between a rock and a hard place.

He would like the impeachment option. It would get him out of the presidency, back to being a celebrity, and could use the "pity me, they all were out to get me" routine to escape. He'd keep his followers, and he'd still be popular using his hangdog face.
BUT - If Congress allows him to complete his term, he will have to do some presidential business, pass legislature, deal with the tariff situation that he made, deal with the border wall/immigration issue that he brought to the forefront, and now must explain why children are dying because he can't deal with fixing the problem, only the wall. He's also hanging himself with his mouth flapping with praise for all of the most despicable leaders in the world....while badmouthing our own experts in the FBI, CIA, Defense, etc.
He announces he's the best president we've ever had. He wants praise and notoriety, well.....he's going to have the notoriety in our history books as the most inept president in history.

Let him continue digging his hole until the next election. By then, even his followers will see what a sham this person is, and always was. The arrow in his heart and head will be that the voters turn away and let him see what a loser he is. For Trump, it's all about winning and losing. Not integrity, dignity, morals, or truth.
My feeling about Trump, Right Now, is that he's a businessman first and foremost and he's running the country as a business too. It's all about trade partners and getting as much people back into work as possible to make him more popular.
You will obviously have your finger on the pulse more than most of us over here. Is this the case do you think?
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Hi

Trump is not making a lot of sense with his aggressive Trade War with China, it could well backfire on him.
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The Don is the best POTUS for years.

Hated by most Democrats.

Understood and appreciated by most Republicans.

Works for me.
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Originally Posted by Floydy ->
My feeling about Trump, Right Now, is that he's a businessman first and foremost and he's running the country as a business too. It's all about trade partners and getting as much people back into work as possible to make him more popular.
You will obviously have your finger on the pulse more than most of us over here. Is this the case do you think?
Yes, Floydy, he thinks this country is like a business, but that's not the case, not by a long shot. He told the voters he was the best trade dealer in the world (cough) and could make deals so easily. Well, we've seen him hedge, deflect, and pout when he doesn't get his own way. He cares about money, his money deals across the globe, first, always Trump first. As for getting us back to work, only if it serves his own purpose. The farmers in the midwest looked to him to allow them to produce goods and food for our country and abroad. After two and a half years, you ask them now, they will tell you how disappointed they are in him. Half won't be voting for him should he be a candidate again in 2020. Even his most avid supporters are seeing he is all bluff, puff, and a daily liar to his own benefit. He puts himself first, and the country is suffering.
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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
The Don is the best POTUS for years.

Hated by most Democrats.

Understood and appreciated by most Republicans.

Works for me.
Your opinion counts, Todger.

However, Trump isn't hated by most Democrats. That's a strong word to denote he can invoke that much passion in us. Dems are discouraged, disappointed, and let down daily by the person who should be looking out for the best interests of our country. Trump isn't interested in putting himself second to do what he took the oath of office to do. He,simply put, doesn't have a clue about governing our country, and it shows.

As for most Republicans understanding him, and appreciating him, that also is not true. His supporters do, and won't admit to ANY flaws in him, as that would reflect back on their decision to vote for him. Many Republicans are sadly standing by, being silent, and hoping someone in Congress will have enough of a backbone to stand up and show integrity and loyalty to this country and challenge him.
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30-05-2019, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Right Now ->
Yes, Floydy, he thinks this country is like a business, but that's not the case, not by a long shot. He told the voters he was the best trade dealer in the world (cough) and could make deals so easily. Well, we've seen him hedge, deflect, and pout when he doesn't get his own way. He cares about money, his money deals across the globe, first, always Trump first. As for getting us back to work, only if it serves his own purpose. The farmers in the midwest looked to him to allow them to produce goods and food for our country and abroad. After two and a half years, you ask them now, they will tell you how disappointed they are in him. Half won't be voting for him should he be a candidate again in 2020. Even his most avid supporters are seeing he is all bluff, puff, and a daily liar to his own benefit. He puts himself first, and the country is suffering.

He's one of these lucky people who sails through life being in the right place at the right time. Somehow it all goes their way and if it doesn't they will perish while he does what he wants to get his own way.
Then again Right Now, it's very difficult for me to sit here and point at Trump when our lot are an uncontrollable bloody mess!
 
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