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30-09-2020, 08:22 PM
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Re: Can I Refuse to Update My Windows PC/Laptop?

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As I said before, I am more than happy to regularly update my Windows virus protection and firewall as and when offered by Microsoft.

As long as my Windows installation continues to work, I don't see any advantage in accepting other updates to the system. For what practical reason should I do that?
A reasonable position to take, JBR, and I think MS is swinging towards "optional updates" more & more.

They need to describe the options better, and suggest possible improvements, so that users can make the choice, IMO!
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30-09-2020, 08:28 PM
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Re: Can I Refuse to Update My Windows PC/Laptop?

Thanks for the info Mart, you have certainly made me think differently about updates.
Since I purchased this laptop with Windows 10 I've had very little trouble with it. I love the way it boots up quickly, and I've been able to view footage from my dash cam, something that I was unable to do with my old netbook running windows 7, although the netbook itself was probably more to blame that Windows 7.

I wasn't looking forward to downloading the recent update which talked about re installing an updated and newer version of Windows 10. I had visions of files and programmes disappearing and never been seen again....It took over thirty minutes to perform and I expected a totally new look, and having to waste time bringing it back to my personal preferences.

Surprisingly, nothing has changed except now I don't get pestered by 'One Drive' which started to interfere every time I transferred photos from my camera. I've always preferred using the cameras own software and viewing and editing in microsoft office picture manager. Call me old fashioned....
So if microsoft want to bung a few updates my way occasionally so be it....
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30-09-2020, 08:36 PM
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Re: Can I Refuse to Update My Windows PC/Laptop?

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Thanks for that Tedc ..and I always thought you were a clever fellow!

It isn't there to be read or understood. I don't think anyone understands the exact nature of updates apart from those who develop and release them. All I try to do is demonstrate how Linux updates itself and show the extent of the updates. Surely useful

Mart, whg if thinking of going to Linux to avoid updates.
Mart, when I opened the post entitled "Can I refuse to Update My Windows PC/Laptop?" the purpose was to discuss the practical aspects of doing that when using Windows and outline the consequences & legalities of so doing.

Getting 3 pages of Linux update stuff was not on my agenda, as an answer to the question posed.

Perhaps it should have been.

But I don't see how.

But I apologise for the tone of my response!
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30-09-2020, 08:53 PM
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Re: Can I Refuse to Update My Windows PC/Laptop?

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Oh yes, I did have a look at Gimp some time ago.
I didn't like it, I'm afraid. In fact, I found it harder to use, probably because I'm used to Photoshop.
Thanks anyway.
Gimp is OK but not as good as Photoshop. I had a free version of professional standard photoshop but it stopped working after an update. There's no way I'm going to buy it.
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30-09-2020, 08:57 PM
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Re: Can I Refuse to Update My Windows PC/Laptop?

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Mart, when I opened the post entitled "Can I refuse to Update My Windows PC/Laptop?" the purpose was to discuss the practical aspects of doing that when using Windows and outline the consequences & legalities of so doing.

Getting 3 pages of Linux update stuff was not on my agenda, as an answer to the question posed.

Perhaps it should have been.

But I don't see how.

But I apologise for the tone of my response!
Linux had already entered the conversation as an alternative OS and the thread is about updates. It's always going to be a possibility that one platform will be compared to another when this topic arises.

Oh well, at least that pile of horse crap has made people aware that Linux receives updates even more frequently than Windows does and shows what updates might consist of.
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30-09-2020, 09:06 PM
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Re: Can I Refuse to Update My Windows PC/Laptop?

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Linux had already entered the conversation as an alternative OS and the thread is about updates. It's always going to be a possibility that one platform will be compared to another when this topic arises.

Oh well, at least that pile of horse crap has made people aware that Linux receives updates even more frequently than Windows does and shows what updates might consist of.
Made it a challenge to read on my mobile phone....!
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30-09-2020, 09:11 PM
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Re: Can I Refuse to Update My Windows PC/Laptop?

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Gimp is OK but not as good as Photoshop. I had a free version of professional standard photoshop but it stopped working after an update. There's no way I'm going to buy it.
Oh, mine is Photoshop Elements and is far cheaper than the full version, though it does everything I want and need.

In fact, I probably wouldn't understand most of Photoshop (full version)!
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30-09-2020, 09:12 PM
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Re: Can I Refuse to Update My Windows PC/Laptop?

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Oh well, at least that pile of horse crap has made people aware that Linux receives updates even more frequently than Windows does and shows what updates might consist of.
Unless I'm mistaken, Linux updates are not compulsory and that's important to me.
I don't like being dictated to!
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30-09-2020, 09:29 PM
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Re: Can I Refuse to Update My Windows PC/Laptop?

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Unless I'm mistaken, Linux updates are not compulsory and that's important to me.
I don't like being dictated to!
I think the thing that sticks in most people's teeth, is the fact that things that were once bought, were owned outright by the purchaser. You bought a vinyl record or a cassette tape, or a CD and it was your piece of music for life.
Now, why buy it when you can listen to any music on youtube or spotify, but you never own it.

It's the same with operating systems, you owned Windows 98 or Vista or Windows 7 etc, and you had the power to do with it as you wish.
But now, you never own windows 10, it always remains the property of microsoft.
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30-09-2020, 09:41 PM
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Re: Can I Refuse to Update My Windows PC/Laptop?

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I think the thing that sticks in most people's teeth, is the fact that things that were once bought, were owned outright by the purchaser. You bought a vinyl record or a cassette tape, or a CD and it was your piece of music for life.
Now, why buy it when you can listen to any music on youtube or spotify, but you never own it.

It's the same with operating systems, you owned Windows 98 or Vista or Windows 7 etc, and you had the power to do with it as you wish.
But now, you never own windows 10, it always remains the property of microsoft.
Actually, I'm not sure, but I suspect that the earlier versions were also the same.
 
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