05-02-2021, 02:41 AM
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Quarantine hotels are a weak link in the system of keeping out Covid. Both Queensland and now Victoria want the Federal government to establish quarantine centres like Howard Springs (near Darwin) outside of metropolitan areas.Every outbreak in this country (since the first wave) has come from hotel quarantine including the Northern beaches, Victorian, SA and WA outbreaks. The state governments argue that immigration is a federal responsibility so they should be responsible for the quarantine of returning travellers.
Hotels are not designed to to have separate air systems to stop the transmission of aerosol particles. They are a very weak link in keeping infection out of the country Howard Springs is the gold standard
05-02-2021, 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Dextrous63
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If this were 1939 and the same laissez faire approach had been taken, we'd probably be speaking fluent German by now.
05-02-2021, 02:58 AM
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Bruce...one woukd imagine that the problems with hotels is partly due to how many people get packed into them, which is also related to the number of hotels that are available. The UK has shed loads of them which will have had very sparse occupancy for a long while.As for air circulation, one can imagine that this would be a problem mostly caused by shared ventilation an in particular air con. As you will know, the UK doesn't really have the same problem as you in terms of temps being in excess of 30, so aircon can be left turned off.
05-02-2021, 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Omah
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Tatsächlich. Zum Glück spreche ich fließend Deutsch .....
05-02-2021, 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Dextrous63
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Bruce...one woukd imagine that the problems with hotels is partly due to how many people get packed into them, which is also related to the number of hotels that are available. The UK has shed loads of them which will have had very sparse occupancy for a long while.As for air circulation, one can imagine that this would be a problem mostly caused by shared ventilation an in particular air con. As you will know, the UK doesn't really have the same problem as you in terms of temps being in excess of 30, so aircon can be left turned off.
International arrivals have a weekly cap of 1505 in NSW; in Western Australia it is 512 and in Queensland, arrivals are capped at 500.
I an not sure what the cap in Victoria s but it is about 500 per week, South Australia will also keep its intake of 490 people each week. The ACT, Northern Territory and Tasmania only have "bespoke arrangements" for arrivals.
International airports instead of 1000s of flights a day have one or two a day, they are basically deserted.
05-02-2021, 08:45 AM
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Some interesting stuff here on border control ...https://www.forbes.com/sites/gabriel...f-coronavirus/
05-02-2021, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Meg
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Too much messing about , just say that anyone who brings the virus into the UK will be shot, that will sort 'em out .....
05-02-2021, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Meg
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Too much messing about , just say that anyone who brings the virus into the UK will be shot, that will sort 'em out .....
Easiest thing is vaccinate people here then we don't care who comes in to our country.
At the moment we have 10 million of the most vulnerable now protected and in the next 2 weeks we will have all the top 4 groups of vulnerable people protected.
If people social distance and stick to our lock down rules as they come over here it shouldn't be a problem, bearing in mind a lot of people coming here are bringing goods, products and essential items anyway.
We had this with the proposal for testing for people on arrival, but the problem with that is, what do we do with a plane full of people when only one person tests positive ? Does everyone have to wait in arrival lounges in quarantine until the last person is tested and then if someone is positive do we put the entire plane full of passengers in hotels ? How do we keep families together ? How do we protect the vulnerable ? Considering one plane lands every about 5 minutes at Heathrow it would be an impossible task, especially as testing isn't as accurate as we would hope.
Easiest answer to it is let people come here but make sure its only essential travel to keep the numbers down and have a covid safe policy and method on planes etc to reduce the risk of infections. Which is what we have done, basically.
Or just shoot them like Mags says
05-02-2021, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Meg
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Too much messing about , just say that anyone who brings the virus into the UK will be shot, that will sort 'em out .....
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