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Its hard to compare world leaders like for like, even those contained within in what is now a short time frame. Globalization continues apace, all scenarios are exercised rapido.
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13-02-2021, 08:43 AM
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Its hard to compare world leaders like for like, even those contained within in what is now a short time frame. Globalization continues apace, all scenarios are exercised rapido.
Oh I don't know about that Spit. I think yo can compare some that are not perfect by any means but are mostly OK, want to serve their country and work within the law with others that are not much more than gangsters and only care about themselves. You think?
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13-02-2021, 08:53 AM
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I think individuals in power speak for a collective, and are pushed front of house because they are consummate professionals in delivering the message. They may become "Loose Cannons" but, this is generally only allowed to proceed as long as it is in the interest of All Parties concerned.
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13-02-2021, 08:55 AM
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Politicians like an Actor up front.
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Globalisation has to be one of the worst things to have happened to the world BY FAR.
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13-02-2021, 01:34 PM
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Globalisation has to be one of the worst things to have happened to the world BY FAR.

Totally agree 👍
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13-02-2021, 02:48 PM
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Not so sure about Obama but am currently watching a re-run of West Wing and Jed
Bartlet is the best President America didn't have!
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13-02-2021, 03:12 PM
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Globalisation has to be one of the worst things to have happened to the world BY FAR.
I agree. I am all about open trade across borders but how individual companies and governments want to negotiate those transactions should reside with each home nation.

If we want to have a place like the WTO where nations and global corporations want to hash out their grievances and work our deals, that's fine, but a centralized organization with ultimate decision-making power and brokering (forcing) multi-nation deals is a non starter for me.
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13-02-2021, 04:38 PM
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And they would be wrong on both counts!

Trump is close to the worst. To say he isn't presidential is an understatement at best, but in terms of his accomplishments, not the worst by far.

That Obama would be considered the the best is absolutely laughable.

The only thing this poll shows is that Americans don't know anything about their own history .

Perhaps that's because too many of us are facile fascicles.
It IS an opinion poll. How each of us reacts to history forms our own opinion. You are only one who sees history in your own way. The poll gathers more than one.
And yes, I know quite a bit about US history.
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13-02-2021, 04:44 PM
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Trump got the second biggest number of votes in USA history in 2020 an increase of 11 million since 2016

That doesn't happen if your the most unpopular president. More people voted for Trump than any other president except for creepy Joe Biden.
 
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