10-02-2020, 03:54 PM
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Re: Diversity? or Under Duress?
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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I don't do diversity.Even less positive discrimination.
If someone can't make the grade in their own right then sod them
10-02-2020, 04:15 PM
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Re: Diversity? or Under Duress?
Originally Posted by shropshiregirl
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Got me tin helmet complete with Daisies, on......There seems to be a lot of talk throughout the media of the need for ‘more diversity’ in the Oscars. I don’t know if it is just me that thinks - ‘’Well, regardless of whether the star(s) are black, white, Chinese or Mexican, surely it should be based on the fact that they should first make films that deserve to be nominated, not just nominated for the sake of it being because the character, film or director is “Diverse”.
To me, that smacks heavily of “Positive discrimination” rather than being more diverse.
There are, and have been some brilliant films portraying black characters, such as “12 Years a Slave” which won an Oscar 6 years ago, and the nomination this year for Cynthia Erivo who was brilliant playing the character of Harriet Tubman. She truly deserved her nomination.
The film “Parasite” a Foreign Film with subtitles won the Oscar for Best film this year. My thinking now is - Because itdeserved it? Or because of fear of those publicly lobbying for more Diversity at the Oscars. I know what I think.
What do you think?
It's not discrimination if there aren't any films good enough to put forward with ethnic people in them.
I have never heard of the film Parasite, let alone seen it. I'll wait til I do before I hold an opinion. Not that mine carries any weight.
10-02-2020, 04:23 PM
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Re: Diversity? or Under Duress?
Originally Posted by Barry
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The great problem is that as soon as you discriminate for someone then you discriminate against everyone else...
I do get a kick out of the fact that Hollywood is has been sanctimonious about this for years, chasing their own tails.
Some foreign films really are terrific though, and given the fact that most movies these days are targeted at the twelve-year-old mind, I am pleased that we have more options.
10-02-2020, 04:35 PM
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Re: Diversity? or Under Duress?
Originally Posted by Surfermom
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This, exactly. I do get a kick out of the fact that Hollywood is has been sanctimonious about this for years, chasing their own tails.
Some foreign films really are terrific though, and given the fact that most movies these days are targeted at the twelve-year-old mind, I am pleased that we have more options.
10-02-2020, 04:39 PM
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Re: Diversity? or Under Duress?
Originally Posted by Percy Vere
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Totally 100% behind you Todger. If people aren't prepared to put in the work and effort to achieve high levels of respect in their chosen field, etc, then they do not deserve any accolades, pay rises or promotions imho.
10-02-2020, 04:40 PM
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Re: Diversity? or Under Duress?
Originally Posted by Judd
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Some years ago, the CEO of Mercedes' Formula 1 racing team said that it wasn't up to Mercedes to slow down, it was for other F1 teams to catch up.
10-02-2020, 04:55 PM
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Re: Diversity? or Under Duress?
Originally Posted by Judd
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Some years ago, the CEO of Mercedes' Formula 1 racing team said that it wasn't up to Mercedes to slow down, it was for other F1 teams to catch up.
10-02-2020, 05:25 PM
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Re: Diversity? or Under Duress?
If someone can't make the grade in their own right then sod themI felt similar when there was all the talk about increasing the number of women in Parliament.
By all means provide creche facilities, but people should be given positions because of their ability, not because they are in the minority.
10-02-2020, 05:53 PM
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Re: Diversity? or Under Duress?
Crikey, glad it's not just me then. I was beginning to think it was just my usual miserable old-fashioned fair-minded me! I was reading today that Andrea Leadsome is for the chop from the Government cabinet for daring to lecture Boris about having more women in the cabinet. It seems to be all the fashion these days to not get ahead through merit, but by demand!|
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