26-02-2020, 10:39 AM
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Something for the EU to Consider
So far the UK has offered the EU a basic, Canada style free trade arrangement and in return the EU has agreed to it providing we sign what is basically, the Lisbon treaty (try not to laugh).Because the UK has now left the EU it is treated statistically as an independent country and conversely, the EU can no longer include UK figures in its own statistics to make it "look good".
So here we are... and oh my, is it an eye opener.
Enjoy ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...European_Union
26-02-2020, 01:35 PM
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Re: Something for the EU to Consider
Originally Posted by Judd
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So, by those figures, the EU really do need us more than we need them as we import far more than we export.
Look at how sharply those numbers roll off ... the EU just don't get it.
26-02-2020, 01:49 PM
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Re: Something for the EU to Consider
Originally Posted by Judd
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So, by those figures, the EU really do need us more than we need them as we import far more than we export.
You buy these goods in the EU because you can't produce them yourselves (otherwise you wouldn't buy them). In other words, you need them.
So your conclusion is not substantiated by the facts
26-02-2020, 02:34 PM
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Re: Something for the EU to Consider
Originally Posted by Solasch
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Your export to the EU is more than double the amount you export to the usa and china combined. So the EU is more important to the UK than usa and china together.You buy these goods in the EU because you can't produce them yourselves (otherwise you wouldn't buy them). In other words, you need them.
So your conclusion is not substantiated by the facts
Leaving the EU and the customs union was to break this dependency by enabling the UK to be a global trading nation free from the protectionism of the EU customs union and single market (one of the reasons that delivered Brexit...)
We start our trade negotiations with the rest of the world in parallel with the EU negotiations for this reason - to maximise the potential of our exports and imports with the whole world, not just limiting them to the EU 27 and being constrained by EU rules, regulations and bureaucracy.
26-02-2020, 04:41 PM
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Re: Something for the EU to Consider
Originally Posted by Solasch
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You buy these goods in the EU because you can't produce them yourselves (otherwise you wouldn't buy them).
Pray, tell us what these products are and I'll bet you a £1 to 1p that we could probably buy them from elsewhere on this earth.
27-02-2020, 07:54 AM
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Re: Something for the EU to Consider
HiA No Deal means that the EU will be subject to Tariffs on it's third biggest Market.
A No Deal means that the UK will be subject to Tariffs on it's biggest
Market.
Simple Maths.
They will not come running, they have the advantage.
It is to nobodies advantage not to have a Free Trade Agreement.
There will be concessions on both sides.
27-02-2020, 08:55 AM
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Re: Something for the EU to Consider
Originally Posted by Moscow
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If I was a UK manufacturer or importer I would be either investing in new tooling or looking to source from UK Good times for British producers on the horizon!
I have no doubt that they are.
The decisions will be made by the Bean Counters.
Most of our Manufacturing is owned by Foreign Companies, they have no interest in the UK other than the profit/loss margin.
27-02-2020, 11:04 AM
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Re: Something for the EU to Consider
Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiA No Deal means that the EU will be subject to Tariffs on it's third biggest Market.
A No Deal means that the UK will be subject to Tariffs on it's biggest
Market.
Simple Maths.
They will not come running, they have the advantage.
It is to nobodies advantage not to have a Free Trade Agreement.
There will be concessions on both sides.
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