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Just think, if she hadn't been IN OUR country she'd still be alive. Likewise if the scum who are responsible for her death hadn't been IN OUR country she would probably still be alive. There's a few messages to be taken on board ---
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21-05-2020, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
Just think, if she hadn't been IN OUR country she'd still be alive. Likewise if the scum who are responsible for her death hadn't been IN OUR country she would probably still be alive. There's a few messages to be taken on board ---
To be fair, her family were genuine refugees and her father had just gained British citizenship after being here for five years and making a contribution to society.
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21-05-2020, 05:21 PM
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To be fair, her family were genuine refugees and her father had just gained British citizenship after being here for five years and making a contribution to society.
So what? If the family crossed Europe morraly they should have applied for asylum before coming to OUR country.
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21-05-2020, 06:41 PM
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They left Lebanon because he the father had been shot and he wanted to go to a safe place.
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21-05-2020, 06:43 PM
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I'm with keezoy - no to CP, no to living a life of relative luxury in prison - for anyone of any colour, creed, background, gender. Yes, to making their lives a living hell while in there though (preferably by the other inmates).
If there is life imprisonment there is no deterrent to bad behaviour in prison putting prison guards at risk . If criminals have life they have nothing to lose.
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21-05-2020, 07:40 PM
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They left Lebanon because he the father had been shot and he wanted to go to a safe place.
Shot by who - and why. Once in the EU he WAS him a dance place.
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21-05-2020, 07:52 PM
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They will get max 22 years and will serve only a portion of that time.
They will say they did not intend to kill her so it will be classed as manslaugher.
While some people don’t mind paying taxes for their upkeep the relatives of the dead person have to pay too.
They pay for the upkeep of the killer of their loved one.
I believe in capital punishment for proven heinous crimes .
There is no point ( as in the case of the notorious child murderer Ian Brady ) in keeping a cruel sadistic killer in jail for 52 years .murderers get old too who wants to look after geriatric killers?
It doesn’t make us better people and causes great anguish to the family .
The millions wasted could be better spent on the innocent citizens of the country .
Our failing health services could make better use of it for example .
I very much doubt the CPS would prosecute for manslaughter. Carrying and discharging a firearm in a public place is murder and shows intent,imho.

Having said that stranger things have happened.
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21-05-2020, 08:02 PM
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So what? If the family crossed Europe morraly they should have applied for asylum before coming to OUR country.
How do you know they didn't? Once they achieve refugee status they are entitled to travel to any EU member country.
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21-05-2020, 08:06 PM
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I very much doubt the CPS would prosecute for manslaughter. Carrying and discharging a firearm in a public place is murder and shows intent,imho.

Having said that stranger things have happened.
Hi

English Law is very specific.

For the Prats to be charged with Murder the prosecution would have to prove that they intended to kill her,
In this case they can't.

She was an innocent victim she was not the intended victim.
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21-05-2020, 08:16 PM
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How do you know they didn't? Once they achieve refugee status they are entitled to travel to any EU member country.
So why choose OUR country? The only thing we have to offer is a huge and growing mohammadan population organised in colonies, and lots of freebies from our taxes.
 
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