11-10-2020, 09:30 PM
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Re: Universal Basic Income?
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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An increasing number of us already are. It is inevitable that the NHS can not continue as it is. It is unaffordable. IMO provision of emergency treatment should be provided and maybe a limited sum to provide health care for chronic conditions and after that then you're on your own with nothing beyond limited palliative care at best but that could be supplemented by private contributory insurance.
Covid virus is going to trigger a change to what so many folk have been taking as an entitlement and normality as to be yet unbelievable, certainly by people born post 1960.
There is no alternative.
11-10-2020, 09:40 PM
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Re: Universal Basic Income?
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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Which chronic conditions?
The country simply can't afford an open cheque book for chronic conditions any more beyond palliative care. It's a changed world and rapidly continuing to change.
11-10-2020, 09:54 PM
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Re: Universal Basic Income?
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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Any chronic condition.The country simply can't afford an open cheque book for chronic conditions any more beyond palliative care. It's a changed world and rapidly continuing to change.
11-10-2020, 10:17 PM
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Re: Universal Basic Income?
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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So you think we should not have free care for cancer? People live for decades until old age because we have great care for cancer.
The tax payer funded NHS simply can not be expected to continue to provide more than that.
11-10-2020, 11:48 PM
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Re: Universal Basic Income?
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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What I believe is, as I wrote, provision of emergency treatment should be provided and maybe a limited sum to provide health care for chronic conditions and after that then you're on your own with nothing beyond limited palliative care at best but that could be supplemented by private contributory insurance.The tax payer funded NHS simply can not be expected to continue to provide more than that.
12-10-2020, 12:54 AM
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Re: Universal Basic Income?
Originally Posted by Azure
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It is a scandal that the NMW in 2020 is a measly £8.72 per hour.Have any MP's lived on that? Do they know how much it costs to keep a family?
Even at Eighteen years of age the wage should start at £10.00 per week, and increase Pro Rata.
Biilionaires should pay a lot more tax by law, instead of avoidinig Tax, compliments of the Government, and stop boasting about paying Half a £million for their offsprings parties and Weddings
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Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others.
— Ayn Rand, 1905-1982, American writer & philosopher
And don't forget that the unwashed of the world will be beating a path to your door. You think you have illegal immigration problems now ? Pass the universal income into law and see what happens.
There is one HUGE problem with taxing the rich. They will simply become citizens of another country to avoid taxes.
Just prior to going public with Facebook stocks, multi-billionaire Mark Zuckerberg became a citizen of Singapore and avoided paying 100's of millions of dollars on U.S. taxes.
please don't get me wrong. Zuckerberg should NOT have been able to avoid those U.S taxes.
12-10-2020, 09:33 AM
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Re: Universal Basic Income?
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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So do you think cancer treatment should be funded or not? It's a large chunk of the cost of NHS treatment and the bulk of that cost is not classed as emergency treatment. A "limited sum" wouldn't pay for much chemo. Have you not seen Breaking Bad? The insurance system doesn't work!
12-10-2020, 09:35 AM
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Re: Universal Basic Income?
Originally Posted by bakerman
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please don't get me wrong. Zuckerberg should NOT have been able to avoid those U.S taxes.
Why not?
12-10-2020, 03:17 PM
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Re: Universal Basic Income?
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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Country in which head office is based made sense before we had all these multinational monster companies. A new approach is now required.
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