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Re: Extinction?

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99%.......extinct? That's a very dubious calculation Ciderman......
Considering there are still species as yet undiscovered....
I think what ciderman mean OGF, was that more species have gone
extinct up to now, than are presently existing on earth today?
However l think this thread has been misunderstood by most
posters as l meant the question to be taken not too literally but
more about if there was no intelligence to appreciate it , then the
universe might as well not exist either?
Sounds daft now l've written it down??

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07-11-2019, 04:46 PM
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Re: Extinction?

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If the human race went extinct, would it be the end of the
universe???

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Nobody would know because no one would be around to witness the event.
To quote a wise old plains Indian, "only the rocks live forever".
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07-11-2019, 05:36 PM
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Re: Extinction?

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
I think what ciderman mean OGF, was that more species have gone
extinct up to now, than are presently existing on earth today?
However l think this thread has been misunderstood by most
posters as l meant the question to be taken not too literally but
more about if there was no intelligence to appreciate it , then the
universe might as well not exist either?
Sounds daft now l've written it down??

Regards bDonkeyman!
No problem Donkeyman......
Not daft at all....

If a tree falls in the forest and there's no one there to hear it....
Will it make a noise?
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08-11-2019, 07:30 PM
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Re: Extinction?

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No problem Donkeyman......
Not daft at all....

If a tree falls in the forest and there's no one there to hear it....
Will it make a noise?
Never heard that one before OGF, But it sums it up!

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09-11-2019, 01:44 AM
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Re: Extinction?

We don't really understand what the universe is. The social construct that is the universe is a human creation. If we disappeared it would also go with us. Whatever is really out there would stay there until it's time was up. Unless of course we manage to last until that happens. If it's the cause of our demise.

I think we will go before that though. We are a very successful species but also a very destructive one.
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09-11-2019, 08:17 AM
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Re: Extinction?

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As 99% of life forms on earth have become extinct, I don't see why we should be exempt. I have no doubt that there are other life forms in the universe but the scale of distances is so extreme that even if we acheive the speed of light, we wouldn't have time to get there.
Who would want to go there?

That is a last resort.
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09-11-2019, 10:05 AM
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We don't really understand what the universe is. The social construct that is the universe is a human creation. If we disappeared it would also go with us. Whatever is really out there would stay there until it's time was up. Unless of course we manage to last until that happens. If it's the cause of our demise.

I think we will go before that though. We are a very successful species but also a very destructive one.
So ... I guess ... the universe is man-made to give a name to spectaculars like Miss Universe.

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09-11-2019, 11:18 AM
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Re: Extinction?

Originally Posted by AnnieS ->
We don't really understand what the universe is. The social construct that is the universe is a human creation. If we disappeared it would also go with us. Whatever is really out there would stay there until it's time was up. Unless of course we manage to last until that happens. If it's the cause of our demise.

I think we will go before that though. We are a very successful species but also a very destructive one.
No Annie, definitely not 'Destructive'.....
Look around you at what humans have built and achieved. Buildings, warm in the winter and cool in the summer, Aircraft fill the skies and can transport you anywhere in the world in just one day. A vehicle providing personal freedom for everybody old enough to hold a licence. Technology that can communicate with friends and family at the other side of the world.....The list is endless, and up to around one hundred years ago was science fiction. We have progressed further in the last hundred years than in the previous 4 Million....

Was it destructive when early explorers cut down a tree and fashioned a boat that would sail the oceans?
The human race is creative, inventive, constructive and progressive Annie....
As you have rightly pointed out 'A very Successful Species' in fact.....The most successful species this planet has ever seen.....But it is this inventiveness that will be our own demise...

And what right have we got to tell others not to benefit from the progress and comfort that man has developed, invented or constructed? When we ourselves benefit from all these things.....Truth is Annie, we are all in it together, and the establishment will sort itself out, and we might not like the solution....Which is first convincing you and me that we are destructive and being responsible for climate change.
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09-11-2019, 12:08 PM
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Re: Extinction?

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No Annie, definitely not 'Destructive'.....
Look around you at what humans have built and achieved. Buildings, warm in the winter and cool in the summer, Aircraft fill the skies and can transport you anywhere in the world in just one day. A vehicle providing personal freedom for everybody old enough to hold a licence. Technology that can communicate with friends and family at the other side of the world.....The list is endless, and up to around one hundred years ago was science fiction. We have progressed further in the last hundred years than in the previous 4 Million....

Was it destructive when early explorers cut down a tree and fashioned a boat that would sail the oceans?
The human race is creative, inventive, constructive and progressive Annie....
As you have rightly pointed out 'A very Successful Species' in fact.....The most successful species this planet has ever seen.....But it is this inventiveness that will be our own demise...

And what right have we got to tell others not to benefit from the progress and comfort that man has developed, invented or constructed? When we ourselves benefit from all these things.....Truth is Annie, we are all in it together, and the establishment will sort itself out, and we might not like the solution....Which is first convincing you and me that we are destructive and being responsible for climate change.

OGF it depends on how you define "success" and "progress".

Let's put aside the climate change debate. We do horrible things to each other and horrible things to animals. What do all our inventions and ideas matter when we have not learned to be kind to each other and to the life around us? We would not be missed. Are our inventions needed by the planet without us?
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09-11-2019, 12:48 PM
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Re: Extinction?

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Who would want to go there?

That is a last resort.
We dont have to go anywhere Spitty, we are allready there!
We ARE part of the universe itself!

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