01-10-2017, 07:51 PM
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Re: Branson-Brexit="worst thing that's happened to Britain in my lifetime".
Originally Posted by JBR
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Poor thing!One 'plus' overrides all the 'minuses' in my opinion: the restoration of our sovereignty.
We have been a sovereign nation since 1066 and if we remain in the EU it is more than likely that we shall soon lose our position as an independent nation. All the signs are there: the Euro, the EU Army, the ECJ, etc.
It worries me that, after all this time, we should become just another region within a European superstate that some have been calling 'The Fourth Reich' on the grounds that the perception is that Germany would, in effect, be in complete control. That almost happened twice in the last century, and many believe that this is just a third attempt.
01-10-2017, 08:16 PM
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Re: Branson-Brexit="worst thing that's happened to Britain in my lifetime".
Of course it's impossible to start a discussion including Branson without it going off on a tangent about his media personality. But my concern is that this is a home-grown entrepreneur employing thousands saying his businesses are losing a great deal of money because of Brexit. His companies were valued at £5 billion. He is not someone to put in a group with media personalities or celebrities.We should be very concerned if businesses based in the UK are losing money because of Brexit. Yesterday's FT Weekend carried the front page headline "Britain Sinks to bottom of G7 growth table" "Pound drops on weaker GDP data". So we have dropped from the top to the bottom of the G7 league table since the vote.
Anyone who is not concerned doesn't understand that the way our economy works is highly dependent on growth and investment by companies who see us as a good place to do business. There is no incentive if we are seen as a dead-duck economy. UK growth is now below Japan, the US, Germany, France, Italy and Canada. We rely on this growth to keep everything here functioning.
So I ask you - what is the point of doing something that is going to make us a third rate economy with medium term contraction of all our public funded services which we will be unable to afford (that includes benefits and pensions).
01-10-2017, 08:23 PM
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Re: Branson-Brexit="worst thing that's happened to Britain in my lifetime".
And many businesses are growing, some saying brexit causes them problems were in trouble and looking for a scapegoat. I don't believe half of them.And what makes it all worth it is we are then free to build the country we want, do you think Spain wouldn't like this chance ? They've been almost destroyed. Should we wait to be next ? Do we want to fund this unelected body anymore ? I think our kids will thank us eventually.
01-10-2017, 08:28 PM
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Re: Branson-Brexit="worst thing that's happened to Britain in my lifetime".
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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Of course it's impossible to start a discussion including Branson without it going off on a tangent about his media personality. But my concern is that this is a home-grown entrepreneur employing thousands saying his businesses are losing a great deal of money because of Brexit. His companies were valued at £5 billion. He is not someone to put in a group with media personalities or celebrities. We should be very concerned if businesses based in the UK are losing money because of Brexit. Yesterday's FT Weekend carried the front page headline "Britain Sinks to bottom of G7 growth table" "Pound drops on weaker GDP data". So we have dropped from the top to the bottom of the G7 league table since the vote.
Anyone who is not concerned doesn't understand that the way our economy works is highly dependent on growth and investment by companies who see us as a good place to do business. There is no incentive if we are seen as a dead-duck economy. UK growth is now below Japan, the US, Germany, France, Italy and Canada. We rely on this growth to keep everything here functioning.
So I ask you - what is the point of doing something that is going to make us a third rate economy with medium term contraction of all our public funded services which we will be unable to afford (that includes benefits and pensions).
01-10-2017, 08:30 PM
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Re: Branson-Brexit="worst thing that's happened to Britain in my lifetime".
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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For those who don't mind paying - perhaps Brexit voters should be financially compensating those who didn't vote for this?
If the Loony Party should be voted into government in the future, would we who didn't vote for them be compensated for our inevitable financial losses?
01-10-2017, 08:32 PM
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Re: Branson-Brexit="worst thing that's happened to Britain in my lifetime".
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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For those who don't mind paying - perhaps Brexit voters should be financially compensating those who didn't vote for this?
It was a democratic vote - remainers lost - suck it up!....
01-10-2017, 08:39 PM
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Re: Branson-Brexit="worst thing that's happened to Britain in my lifetime".
Originally Posted by JBR
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I'd rather be a member of a 'third rate economy' than be a region subservient to a new dictator-ruled empire.
01-10-2017, 08:50 PM
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Re: Branson-Brexit="worst thing that's happened to Britain in my lifetime".
Originally Posted by fender
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Dear dear Annie - more sour grapes?It was a democratic vote - remainers lost - suck it up!....
It's not "undemocratic" to criticise a poor decision for the future of the country. It's very much what democracy is about.
01-10-2017, 08:50 PM
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Re: Branson-Brexit="worst thing that's happened to Britain in my lifetime".
Originally Posted by Julie1962
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And many businesses are growing, some saying brexit causes them problems were in trouble and looking for a scapegoat. I don't believe half of them. And what makes it all worth it is we are then free to build the country we want, do you think Spain wouldn't like this chance ? They've been almost destroyed. Should we wait to be next ? Do we want to fund this unelected body anymore ? I think our kids will thank us eventually.
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