13-06-2020, 11:59 AM
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Re: Murder by Police - George Floyd
Originally Posted by JBR
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The Wild West.
13-06-2020, 12:06 PM
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Re: Murder by Police - George Floyd
Originally Posted by Donkeyman
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I think american gun laws stemmed from long ago before aneffective law enforsement force was established OGF and the
citizens had to bear arms to protect themselves!!
Unfortunately they failed to reform these laws as society developed?
It seems to be too late now
Donkeyman! 👎🤔👎
Why beat around the bush? The 2nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution (1776) was established following The Revolutionary War against British tyranny.
The people of America needed to protect themselves from any future invasions by England. The Minutemen were established, so named because they could "within a single minute" pickup their arms and rush to the aid of their fellow countrymen.
The 2nd Amendment: "A well regulated militia , being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms , shall not be infringed".
That my friends, is the law of the land. It has stood us in good stead, for the British did indeed invade us again in 1812. Even though the British managed to invade Washington D.C., and burn the White House to the ground , the minute men fought alongside the American Army, both on the east coast and on the plains near New Orleans and roundly defeated the British and sent them packing, once again.
Americans have long since forgiven, but we have never forgotten. Nor will we ever forget.
The origins of American gun laws has it's roots deeply embedded in The Revolutionary War.
13-06-2020, 12:20 PM
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Re: Murder by Police - George Floyd
Originally Posted by bakerman
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Why beat around the bush? The 2nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution (1776) was established following The Revolutionary War with the British. The people of America needed to protect themselves from any future invasions by England. The Minutemen were established, so named because they could "within a single minute" pickup their arms and rush to the aid of their fellow countrymen.
The 2nd Amendment: "A well regulated militia , being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms , shall not be infringed".
That my friends, is the law of the land. It has stood us in good stead, for the British did indeed invade us again in 1812. Even though the British managed to invade Washington D.C., and burn the White House to the ground , the minute men fought alongside the American Army, both on the east coast and on the plains near New Orleans and roundly defeated the British and sent them, once again, packing.
Funny thing, the first thing that struck me the first time I flew over America was what a god awful mess had been made of a pristine country for such little technical or social gain.
On the other hand Canada was so little despoiled and certainly the social gain has been substantial.
Another thing that never ceases to amaze me is the combination of arrogance intertwined with ignorance that leads most of the Americans that I have encountered, and there has been a great many, firmly believing that The America Way is the best way.
Well guess what. It's NOT. It might be best for Americans though that is very questionable as is becoming obvious but it's not for other countries yet the American government be it red or blue persists in sticking it's nose where it is not wanted, needed, and absolutely no right to be.
I'm glad to see America now well on the way to be on its way to being usurped from its self appointed leader of the free world especially when under American hegemony upheld by military power and a financial power that came about by a deliberate reneging on a PROMISE made during the Bretton Woods conference resulted in anything but a free world. Then other sleight of hand such as the repeal of the Glass Steagall act and it's replacement with the useless Gramm-Leach-Bliley act that Clinton signed into law.
It was that which resulted in American bankers GREED that was the root cause of the world financial crisis.
FWIW I was introduced to Clinton on two separate occasions. He had dead eyes constantly shifting and avoiding eye to eye contact. He gave me the horrors.
13-06-2020, 12:49 PM
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Re: Murder by Police - George Floyd
Originally Posted by Muddy
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It’s a pity that Canadians tend to be rather smug and pleased with themselves tho 
13-06-2020, 12:53 PM
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Re: Murder by Police - George Floyd
Originally Posted by Muddy
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It’s a pity that Canadians tend to be rather smug and pleased with themselves tho
13-06-2020, 02:58 PM
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Re: Murder by Police - George Floyd
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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Another thing that never ceases to amaze me is the combination of arrogance intertwined with ignorance that leads most of the Americans that I have encountered, and there has been a great many, firmly believing that The America Way is the best way.
Anyway, I digress.
Some years ago both Marge and I went to work in Saudi Arabia (not for the money, I assure you!), she working in a British hospital in Riyadh and I in an American hospital in the same city.
In my experience, the American way of doing things in that environment tended to be far more based on pre-written procedures from which one found it difficult to stray, whereas the British way was far more flexible and permitted its professionals to utilise their own knowledge and experience to make decisions.
Despite that, the Americans assured us that they knew far better than us inferior nationalities (they were of various nationalities as well as American)!
Not too long afterwards, I resigned and returned to the UK, somehow managed to lose my current passport and obtained a replacement, and was then invited to work at the British-run hospital!
Personally, I was pleased to be able to work and live with my wife but also I couldn't bear working any longer with the Americans with their 'superiority complexes'!
Perhaps just an isolated example of American organisations but, in my experience, overall they are far less professionally developed than our British equivalents.
13-06-2020, 05:39 PM
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Re: Murder by Police - George Floyd
Originally Posted by JBR
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I may have mentioned before that I have relatives in America although, in fairness, I should mention that the American grandmother (still alive) married an Englishman (now dead) which is where our family connection comes from. The next three generations, with whom we communicate, are thus half American and half English via their antecedents, which makes them really quite civilised!Anyway, I digress.
Some years ago both Marge and I went to work in Saudi Arabia (not for the money, I assure you!), she working in a British hospital in Riyadh and I in an American hospital in the same city.
In my experience, the American way of doing things in that environment tended to be far more based on pre-written procedures from which one found it difficult to stray, whereas the British way was far more flexible and permitted its professionals to utilise their own knowledge and experience to make decisions.
Despite that, the Americans assured us that they knew far better than us inferior nationalities (they were of various nationalities as well as American)!
Not too long afterwards, I resigned and returned to the UK, somehow managed to lose my current passport and obtained a replacement, and was then invited to work at the British-run hospital!
Personally, I was pleased to be able to work and live with my wife but also I couldn't bear working any longer with the Americans with their 'superiority complexes'!
Perhaps just an isolated example of American organisations but, in my experience, overall they are far less professionally developed than our British equivalents.
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