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Originally Posted by TessA ->
Would it work if we said, "No entry without health insurance!"?
Obviously not for those arriving by illegal means, but for the health tourists, who can afford the fare so could be checked at airports etc.
Lots of countries say you have to have visas so a similar control for ours.
I think that would work to a certain extent but only for the well off ones who can afford it, unfortunately, they tend not to live here, we end up with the dregs who drain the system.
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Yes mate,

Let's put the people who actually pay into the system at the back of the que. You just have to love the Establishment eh?
Slightly off topic (sorry) but I was hovering on a local facebook page this morning and read that a local elderly woman had been robbed last night whilst she slept in her bed. Obviously she is in a right state today and hopefully she had insurance. A few posts past that was an advert for an event supporting 'asylum seekers'. Has no one thought of helping out this woman first?

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Originally Posted by Longdogs ->
Slightly off topic (sorry) but I was hovering on a local facebook page this morning and read that a local elderly woman had been robbed last night whilst she slept in her bed. Obviously she is in a right state today and hopefully she had insurance. A few posts past that was an advert for an event supporting 'asylum seekers'. Has no one thought of helping out this woman first?

No, because law abiding people who pay into the system are bottom of the heap.
Being PC and virtue signalling is much more important.
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05-05-2019, 06:47 PM
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No, because law abiding people who pay into the system are bottom of the heap.
Being PC and virtue signalling is much more important.
Makes you sick doesn't it.
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Makes you sick doesn't it.
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health tourists coming to Britain for treatment they're not entitled to - costing the NHS £280m a year
to put this into perspective ...

Brexit costs UK £600m a week. This would mean that in the 145 weeks since the referendum the total cost to the UK economy is around £87bn
https://economia.icaew.com/news/apri...uk-600m-a-week
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to put this into perspective ...



https://economia.icaew.com/news/apri...uk-600m-a-week
Doesn't put it in perspective at all.
The fact remains, we are not the bloody saviour's / charity for the world.

What Brexit is costing us is another matter, and again down to the utterly inept establishment who could not run a bun fight in a bakery between them.
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08-05-2019, 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
Why cant the nhs use the same system as private clinics
do, the check in desk is used to check your status with
the clinic or with your creditworthiness before any contact
with medical staff, what is so difficult about that?

Regards Donkeyman!
Probably because if a woman comes in and is in labour they cannot chuck her out to give birth in the street when she says she cannot pay. They have a priority to save lives at any cost. If someone comes in unconscious they are obliged to treat them.
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08-05-2019, 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Barry ->
Why shouldn't everyone pay, you couldn't go into a shop and expect not to pay for goods or services so why expect it of the NHS?

However, medical staff should not be part of the payment system, a financial admin department should deal with this and screen patients before admission for treatment.
So accountants should decide who is entitled to health treatment?

The whole point of the NHS is that it's free at the point of access. The services are paid for by those who can afford to pay for them and free for everyone. To say people should pay is like saying why do we have to pay for the pensions of people who no longer work.

I've said before that British consulates abroad should not grant visas to people who cannot prove they have healthcare insurance to cover all their medical conditions before coming to the UK. This should be part of border control checks and not something the NHS has to deal with.

It's part of a bigger issue where we do not know who is coming into the country and where they go when they outstay their visa. People from a number of countries are meant to register with the Police when they arrive here but I wonder how robust that system is and why it doesn't automatically link into the NHS service they are entitled to & include a check of their health insurance details.

So granting of visas to the UK should include a health check in the country of origin and confirmation of insurance. That's one thing that would help. If someone is too sick to travel and does not have insurance should not be granted a visa.
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The NHS has become unaffordable. Advances in treatment and the costs associated with them have outstripped it's affordability. It's time for change. I favour replacing it with something very close to the Swiss health service.
 
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