15-04-2021, 11:31 AM
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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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In the old days there was religion to teach respect for others. Didn't always work but as long as everyone shared a religion there was a moral framework. These days there's no moral compass. You can moan about religion until the cows come home but at least it kept people focused on what's right and what's wrong.
15-04-2021, 12:32 PM
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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?
Originally Posted by OldGreyFox
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Have you been reading my posts Annie....Exactly what I think....
Much much better is to produce a moral compass with humanism as it's basis than silly superstition.
15-04-2021, 01:19 PM
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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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Theism is a busted flush especially amongst reasonably intelligent educated people. To base any form of morality on a load of old tish is today guaranteed to eventually fail as people realise it as they grow up and realise that they've been sold a pup and rebel accordingly. Much much better is to produce a moral compass with humanism as it's basis than silly superstition.
On the other hand anything that does what Islam does, is not a religion because they have laws & punishments for those who break the laws & that not only removes the right to let people believe as they choose, it can inflict dreadful punishments, including death!
Sadly fear is the easiest way to get people to do what you want them to and most other religions only inflict minor punishment.
It seems that dictatorship is the only way to make all of the people, follow all of the rules, all of the time and even that will fail one day!
15-04-2021, 01:20 PM
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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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Theism is a busted flush especially amongst reasonably intelligent educated people. To base any form of morality on a load of old tish is today guaranteed to eventually fail as people realise it as they grow up and realise that they've been sold a pup and rebel accordingly. Much much better is to produce a moral compass with humanism as it's basis than silly superstition.
When you think about it, the only 'evidence' of a god is ancient written (by man) texts and long-held beliefs and activities, including the building of many attractive and valued religious buildings.
Actually, the only thing that these are evidence of is the belief of supernatural beings and forces by man.
15-04-2021, 02:59 PM
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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?
I don't think following a religious path only amounts to praising an invisible or non existent God....It provides a social and spiritual bonding in societies, and provides support and friendship in times of need. Take Islam for example, you might not agree with some of their teachings, but you have to admit that there is a great social bonding, a feeling of belonging and respect for one's elders, something greatly lacking in the christian world today...
Don't we come on the forum to socialise and be part of something?
15-04-2021, 03:47 PM
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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?
Originally Posted by OldGreyFox
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I don't think following a religious path only amounts to praising an invisible or non existent God....It provides a social and spiritual bonding in societies, and provides support and friendship in times of need. Take Islam for example, you might not agree with some of their teachings, but you have to admit that there is a great social bonding, a feeling of belonging and respect for one's elders, something greatly lacking in the christian world today...Don't we come on the forum to socialise and be part of something?
I get on well with many people but I don't have to think like them or attend the same social gatherings!
Personally I think that respect for others comes from having good manners. For example..... if I associate with a muslim lady I would be interested in her head covering and want to know how she secures it. Out of respect I would wear one if I entered her mosque, but that doesn't mean I would wear one every time I spoke to her!
Surely good manners start at home & are continued in school, so everybody who gets past school age & still has no respect for others has obviously been brought up without manners, has not been taught them at school & spends their lives only considering their own wants & needs.... why would anybody want to socialise with them?
15-04-2021, 07:21 PM
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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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Theism is a busted flush especially amongst reasonably intelligent educated people. To base any form of morality on a load of old tish is today guaranteed to eventually fail as people realise it as they grow up and realise that they've been sold a pup and rebel accordingly. Much much better is to produce a moral compass with humanism as it's basis than silly superstition.
15-04-2021, 07:22 PM
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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?
Originally Posted by OldGreyFox
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I don't think following a religious path only amounts to praising an invisible or non existent God....It provides a social and spiritual bonding in societies, and provides support and friendship in times of need. Take Islam for example, you might not agree with some of their teachings, but you have to admit that there is a great social bonding, a feeling of belonging and respect for one's elders, something greatly lacking in the christian world today...Don't we come on the forum to socialise and be part of something?
15-04-2021, 07:25 PM
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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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Humanism is just another religion.
What a strange idea!
15-04-2021, 07:27 PM
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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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We could invent our own religion. perhaps a subject for another thread?!
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