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Polly Toynbee's view of "this floundering crew" dealing with COVID-19

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...andemic-public

How can Britain trust this floundering crew of fibbers to tackle coronavirus?

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Fresh from a mega-victory and an age from the next election, why should the government panic? Because serial bungles, missteps, policy reversals and a vanishing connection with honesty risk damaging it beyond repair. No one knows all the right numbers yet, but trust shrinks when the government misuses them anyway.

Trust is ebbing away just when it’s most needed to persuade anxious parents to send their children to school; it’s frittered away on slippery pledges made to fill front pages for a day, but that are bound to be exposed soon after. We could walk down the well-trodden path: the government tacking wildly between herd immunity, tracking and tracing, then neither tracking nor testing, then locking down, then relaxing it but only to visit estate agents and garden centres, but not family. “Only following the science,” ministers claim, or as one wit put it, the political science. But they get that political science badly askew.

Take Matt Hancock’s dumbfounding claim on Friday: “Right from the start we’ve tried to throw a protective ring around our care homes … we’ve made sure care homes have the resources they need.” What sentient voter doesn’t know that to be a flat-out lie? No testing and no PPE, as care homes – some close to bankruptcy – were pressured to take untested, possibly infected, hospital patients, without enough doctors, staff, training or isolation space. Taking the public for fools destroys trust.

No government could have been fully ready as the tsunami of horror swept in. No reasonable voter would have expected everything to have been waiting, just in case. True, a decade of cuts had left us exceptionally unprepared and the government preferred failed private companies to handle PPE, testing and tracing over better equipped local authorities. Yet it might have kept the public’s trust with honesty and transparency, consulting everyone, publishing everything, admitting failures.
I have to agree with her ..... the appalling reaction and performance of the Tory government in dealing with COVID-19 has resulted in chaos, confusion and the highest death-toll for any country in Europe .....
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Originally Posted by Omah ->
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...andemic-public

How can Britain trust this floundering crew of fibbers to tackle coronavirus?

Just an excerpt:



I have to agree with her ..... the appalling reaction and performance of the Tory government in dealing with COVID-19 has resulted in chaos, confusion and the highest death-toll for any country in Europe .....
More spin.
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I said all along that the Government were out of their depth with P P E , and should have consulted a British Garment Manufacturer for advice
Instead they ordered £millions in Turkey and then sent two RAF Planes to import them, completely ignoring British Manufacturers who were willing and happy to make them in the UK.
When they arrive they were found to be faulty and Unusable so are trying to get a refund.
Which Bright spark though this was the best quickest and way
to get these garment to the Hospitals

That is good way to do business ,isn't it!!
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19-05-2020, 06:20 PM
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You trust Polly Toynbee?

The grande dame of the left and another champagne socialist.
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Always found this woman a moron.

I don't read anything she spews out.
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19-05-2020, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by galty ->
Always found this woman a moron.

I don't read anything she spews out.

Exactly, Galty

Why is she saying this now instead of months ago ? Where was her advice in January or February, or March, or April ?

Polly Toynbee spent more time on the leadership election and labours process than the COVID-19 crisis like the rest of the useless labour party. They only come out to criticise when its all been sorted out by the government.
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19-05-2020, 08:59 PM
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A similar view from Andrew Rawnsley (again, only an extract)

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-truce-is-over

As public confidence in the Tory government tumbles, the coronavirus truce is over

Since Mr Johnson’s widely derided national broadcast last Sunday, we have seen the resumption of something much more like traditional political combat. Opposition parties are becoming more muscular with ministers. The devolved administrations in Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland, which initially stayed in lockstep with the UK government, have openly split with Downing Street to pursue divergent policies. Conservative MPs are becoming dramatically more critical of their government’s performance. The voters, who went into lockdown overwhelmingly of the view that it was the right thing to do, are divided about how we ought to emerge from it. In short, the consensus in the country is decaying and the truce between the government and its opponents is over.

One explanation is the lengthening charge list of failures in both planning for a pandemic and executing an adequate response when it broke out. There is now just too much evidence of egregious blundering to ignore, however generously you might make allowances for ministers struggling to combat a novel disease. Even generally loyal Conservatives have become deeply disturbed by the unenviably high toll of fatalities. “Do you know how many people have died in Hong Kong? Four! Just four!” exclaims one senior Tory. “People are waking up to the fact that Britain has done really woefully.”

It is now taken as given that there will be the mother of all public inquiries when this is finally over. Key players at the centre of events are writing private records of who did what when and who failed to do what when. One senior official tells me: “We are all keeping notes.”

Ministers have made it worse for themselves by setting targets, especially for supplies of essential equipment and testing and tracking of infection, that they then don’t fulfil. The Opinium poll that we publish today indicates a nine-point plunge in public confidence in the government’s ability to handle the epidemic. Its approval rating is now negative for the first time since the emergency began. Opinium also reports that Britons now think that only the US has handled the crisis worse than their own country.
What an utter shambles perpetrated by the Tories ..... and over 40,000 deaths (more than the Luftwaffe killed in the London Blitz) .....
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19-05-2020, 09:00 PM
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I listen to most people but avoid listening to anything the spiteful vicious Toynbee has to say ....
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19-05-2020, 09:20 PM
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Unease grows in UK government over handling of Covid-19

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/worl...d-19-1.4254792

Public opinion could be about to turn due to high death toll and unfulfilled promises

This week Britain’s official death toll surpassed that of every country in the world apart from the United States.

Ministers and government health advisers say it is too early to compare Britain’s death toll, which stood at 33,998 on Friday May 15, with others because no country’s statistics will be complete until there is clarity about total excess deaths throughout the epidemic.

But whether Britain’s toll is the second, third or fourth highest in the world, the government’s performance during the crisis has compared unfavourably with that of most of its European neighbours.

“They’re in a panic because they’re making it up as they go along,” said Allyson Pollock, a consultant in public health medicine and director of the centre for excellence in regulatory science at Newcastle University.

Pollock is a member of the Independent Sage group of scientific and medical experts who this week published a report that criticised the government’s handling of the epidemic and called for an expansion of public health capacity to identify, isolate, test and treat all cases.

Britain abandoned community testing and tracing on March 12th, limiting it to hospitals.
..... and now testing's back ..... the Tory government are closing the stable door after the horse has bolted .....
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