02-01-2021, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Mups
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I agree with that JBR. Any highly infectious disease should be isolated.
Good grief, even my vets do that!
It's got to be like you said - foresight and planning at fault, because if they had checked staffing levels before hand, surely they wouldn't have gone to the expense of building these isolation places for them just to be dismantled again?
02-01-2021, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Mups
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I agree with that JBR. Any highly infectious disease should be isolated.
Good grief, even my vets do that!
It's got to be like you said - foresight and planning at fault, because if they had checked staffing levels before hand, surely they wouldn't have gone to the expense of building these isolation places for them just to be dismantled again?
02-01-2021, 05:47 PM
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Going back to what Annie said about the Tories making a hash of the NHS ...In today's D Mail: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...0-doctors.html 6,000 new doctors hired last year along with 13,000 new nurses and many more to come over the next few years. Pray tell me how THAT is making a hash of the NHS?
02-01-2021, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Percy Vere
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Going back to what Annie said about the Tories making a hash of the NHS ...In today's D Mail: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...0-doctors.html 6,000 new doctors hired last year along with 13,000 new nurses and many more to come over the next few years. Pray tell me how THAT is making a hash of the NHS?
02-01-2021, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS
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Well they have about 40k nursing vacancies and check how many doctors have retired in the last few years after they changed all the contract terms (it was well publicised how the consultants were leaving in droves after the pension rules changed plus GPs retiring in the last few years because of all the pressures etc). So it's like an elastoplast trying to fix a massive leak.
02-01-2021, 06:02 PM
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Here's some data on GP numbers :"Since 2015, the number of permanent, fully qualified GPs has fallen by around 2,200. Even when including our estimate of the GP workforce registered with PCNs, there is still a decrease of 1,800 full-time equivalent GPs. We would have expected levels to increase to be on course to deliver 5,000 more GPs as soon as possible."
https://www.nuffieldtrust.org.uk/nhs...iAAEgKlBvD_BwE
02-01-2021, 06:11 PM
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Re: Nightingale Hospitals !!
Originally Posted by Percy Vere
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Going back to what Annie said about the Tories making a hash of the NHS ...In today's D Mail: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...0-doctors.html 6,000 new doctors hired last year along with 13,000 new nurses and many more to come over the next few years. Pray tell me how THAT is making a hash of the NHS?
02-01-2021, 06:14 PM
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Here is a nice paper summarising doctor shortage causes :https://publishing.rcseng.ac.uk/doi/...csbull.2020.78
school changes, the British Medical Association (BMA) has had a number of concerns including that, ‘it would take a decade for the increased student numbers to translate into
more doctors on the ground. The proposals would do nothing to address current workforce pressures.
extra sessions.17 The chief executive of NHS Employers, Danny Mortimer, says, ‘the health service is suffering from a severe workforce shortage and any suggestion that skilled senior clinicians are looking to reduce or end their NHS commitments should be a cause for alarm.’
02-01-2021, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS
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Well they have about 40k nursing vacancies and check how many doctors have retired in the last few years after they changed all the contract terms (it was well publicised how the consultants were leaving in droves after the pension rules changed plus GPs retiring in the last few years because of all the pressures etc). So it's like an elastoplast trying to fix a massive leak.
I look at other countries and see that they are also struggling to cope, even ones like Germany who seemed to have it all under control in the beginning.
There is no right or wrong way to deal with something of this kind of magnitude, you just have to make it up as you go along. People should take more responsibility for their own health and not keep blaming other people.
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