16-11-2018, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Joe
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Over the past 48 hours, when I think of Brexit, I keep thinking at the same time, of that old music hall song - "the okey, cokey" - I wonder why??? 
) exactly what proposals you would have made to leave the EU . No reply has been forthcoming so I can only conclude yet again we have a situation of 'all mouth and no trousers'.
16-11-2018, 11:21 AM
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Brexit is dead.It only ever existed in the demented and tormented minds of the right wing of both parliament and the country.
Nothing they ever said has come about (some would say, with justification neither did those proposed by remainers).
There is, and never was a better deal than the one we are in now. NO ONE has put forward a rational argument for leaving the EU other than hairy fairy comments like taking back control (no definition) etc etc.
16-11-2018, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Meg
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UJ I have asked you many times (as someone voted leave but now likes to pretend they didn't ) exactly what proposals you would have made to leave the EU . No reply has been forthcoming so I can only conclude yet again we have a situation of 'all mouth and no trousers'.
16-11-2018, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by itsme
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Brexit is dead. It only ever existed in the demented and tormented minds of the right wing of both parliament and the country.
Nothing they ever said has come about (some would say, with justification neither did those proposed by remainers).
There is, and never was a better deal than the one we are in now. NO ONE has put forward a rational argument for leaving the EU other than hairy fairy comments like taking back control (no definition) etc etc.
I might have to have a lie down, right wing ? I've never been so insulted and quite a few have tried to insult me I can tell you. 
16-11-2018, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by itsme
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Brexit is dead.It only ever existed in the demented and tormented minds of the right wing of both parliament and the country.
Nothing they ever said has come about (some would say, with justification neither did those proposed by remainers).
There is, and never was a better deal than the one we are in now. NO ONE has put forward a rational argument for leaving the EU other than hairy fairy comments like taking back control (no definition) etc etc.
Just keep telling yourself that I don't think many on here are listening to you .I have decided it is pointless replying to bitter remain supporters who can't accept the majority who voted in the referendum voted leave .....
16-11-2018, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Meg
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Just keep telling yourself that I don't think many on here are listening to you .I have decided it is pointless replying to bitter remain supporters who can't accept the majority who voted in the referendum voted leave .....
16-11-2018, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by itsme
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Brexit is dead. It only ever existed in the demented and tormented minds of the right wing of both parliament and the country.
Nothing they ever said has come about (some would say, with justification neither did those proposed by remainers).
There is, and never was a better deal than the one we are in now. NO ONE has put forward a rational argument for leaving the EU other than hairy fairy comments like taking back control (no definition) etc etc.
16-11-2018, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Meg
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JB if this deal doesn't go through you can 'look forward' to our staying in the EU anyway by default because 'no deal' isn't acceptable to a majority including businesses many of whom breathed a sigh of relief when May's proposal was tabled. Time is running out and even if article 50 was extended the EU are in no mood for more negotiation when they have already offered to discuss a tariff-free bespoke trade deal during the coming negotiations which will be more beneficial to us than Canada + or Norway . Don't forget the EU elections are due next year and our leaving will not be the main priority in the EU.
And for those who think we can just stop the clock and return to the EU membership we had before the referendum that may not be possible either because we will almost certainly be weakened in the eyes of the EU and could even lose of the 'privileges' we previously enjoyed like the £4 billion rebate.
Sometimes it is better to accept half a cake than no cake at all.
I will take the agreement thanks with a transition period to allow our buisiness to prepare and for us to negotiate a bespoke trade deal.
In a couple of years time at the end of transition period when the dust has settled and the EU won't have to worry about being seen to be losing a member because they will have made their point about it not being easy to leave I think for the most part things should be going ok for the UK that is if too many awkward people don't spoil things.
16-11-2018, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by meg
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for those who now think remaining looks like the best option and to add to my earlier post, i have heard it suggested that if the other 27 member states vote to allow us to revoke article 50 and to remain there will be a cost to pay after all the expensive preparations we have caused and a condition of our remaining could not only be the loss of our rebait but having to enter into the schengen agreement and embrace the euro. I will take the agreement thanks with a transition period to allow our buisiness to prepare and for us to negotiate a bespoke trade deal.
In a couple of years time at the end of transition period when the dust has settled and the eu won't have to worry about being seen to be losing a member because they will have made their point about it not being easy to leave i think for the most part things should be going ok for the uk that is if too many awkward people don't spoil things.
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