25-04-2021, 10:56 AM
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It's these cheap shots and stupid stunts by the left to try and gain political points which will destroy philanthropy projects by big businesses all over the world.First, Astra Zeneca where they have had enormous damage to their reputation through the constant bombardment by Macron, Merkel and the EU commission over side effects which make no sense at all and against the advise of their own regulators. The EU have acted disgracefully over the UK-AZ contract, using it to try and deflect from their own catastrophe and in doing so have even resorted to breaching the Good Friday Agreement and imposed vaccine nationalism, blocking exports to poorer countries who depend on these vaccines which the UK have paid for. If AZ had sold their vaccine for profit at a marketable price it would have granted them £21 billion in sales.
Now Dyson, already the 3rd / 4th biggest tax payer in the UK who is being slandered by Starmer, Reeves and the rest of the Labour Party over Dysons text message to Boris to unblock additional UK tax liabilities for his own staff who were going to come here to help make his ventilators. Dyson has already paid for all the research and development costs - there's millions and millions of pounds of investment just for doing that. If the government hadn't fixed the taxation issues it would have blocked the manufacturing of the ventilators in the UK because his staff would be penalised through the UK tax system for doing so. They already pay tax in Singapore so why on earth should they be taxed here as well for helping out during a pandemic, bearing in mind it is a project that Dyson has funded in the first place on a non-profit basis for the NHS with thousands more ventilators being made here to distribute to poorer nations for free.
The Labour Party, Macron, Merkel, the EU Commission, all so called socialists are abhorrent lying unprincipled morons.
After we recover from Covid, big businesses are going to reflect on how AZ and Dyson were treated by the (so called) caring left and the damage they have caused. I doubt they will ever step up to help out again in the future should anything like this happen. If they do, blame the left, it is entirely the fault of these cretins who's hate for conservatives and moderates is an agenda far more important than the generosity of big business to open their wallets to help save lives.
25-04-2021, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiI am no Tory supporter, in this instance however I think Boris did the right thing.
We, at the time, needed ventilators.
Dyson switched 450 of his engineers onto the job, bought some parts to build and the NHS then decided they didn't want them.
Dyson lost £20 million on the project.
Being quick saves lives, following every rule in the book and we end up like the EU, slow off the mark.
If there was any illegal contracts, then yes, should be looked into.
In this instance I think we did the right thing.
25-04-2021, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiI am no Tory supporter, in this instance however I think Boris did the right thing.
We, at the time, needed ventilators.
Dyson switched 450 of his engineers onto the job, bought some parts to build and the NHS then decided they didn't want them.
Dyson lost £20 million on the project.
Being quick saves lives, following every rule in the book and we end up like the EU, slow off the mark.
If there was any illegal contracts, then yes, should be looked into.
In this instance I think we did the right thing.
25-04-2021, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Banchory
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I didn’t say I believed the BBC version only that their version of the story fact checked some of Dyson’s statements (which if no factual can only be fiction) and came to a different conclusion.I’ve never heard of the BBC being called the Brussels Broadcasting Corps. An internet search brings up a book on Amazon. With a 2 star rating and two other obscure references so not “widely known” at all
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The BBC should be impartial but bias is certainly possible. Whether it is Brussels orientated as you infer is open to debate, particularly with Tim Davie at the helm as he is certainly pro Brexit and there have been recent claims the BBC are burying Brexit bad news, so who’s to say that the bias is not pro Brexit?
https://edm.parliament.uk/early-day-...ing-of-the-bbc
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...4m-eu-funding/
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...-tried-to-hide
There are many more links for you to look for if you're so inclined, which I doubt because it spoils your obvious bias towards the EU.
25-04-2021, 10:49 PM
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Well it’s obvious I’ve not been spending my time on obscure Brexit sutra such a Brexit central where I’m sure there are all sorts of names for the BBCThe links you provided are not exactly from unbiased sources with no agenda and none actually prove there is any EU bias.
No
26-04-2021, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Percy Vere
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You've never heard of the beeb being called that? Well, my gast is well and truly flabbered I can tell you. Where have you been living these past 2 or 3 years? How come you've never seen the articles about the BBC receiving €200+ millions from the EU to promote only good news items?https://edm.parliament.uk/early-day-...ing-of-the-bbc
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...4m-eu-funding/
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...-tried-to-hide
There are many more links for you to look for if you're so inclined, which I doubt because it spoils your obvious bias towards the EU.
From deliberately using the wrong photos to further their own pre-EU agenda to the also-deliberate use of stooges in interviews the BBC's bias has been well-documented, but of course a pro-EU denial is no surprise coming from an obvious EUrophile, is it?
It is without any doubt at least part of the reason for their continuing decline as they are haemorrhaging both viewers and license-fee payers at quite some rate.
No it isn't just younger viewers, before somebody tries that tactic; the over-55's are increasingly dissatisfied with the BBC too and as just one example last Christmas saw the BBC record a record low number of viewers over Christmas with numbers halved compared to the year before.
Half!
Admittedly not all of the decline is because of the bias evident within the corporation but it's certainly not helping.
Obviously.
"The BBC’s bias on Brexit has been proven beyond doubt – your move, Tim Davie
A new report shows an overwhelming pro-EU slant in BBC coverage from just one random week. Will the new director-general take it seriously?"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/bbc...ove-tim-davie/
Can't read The Telegraph so you want something you can read?
You can't really have it both ways and ask for "better" sources if you're not prepared to put the effort in to be able to read such sources but okay, try:
"'BIASED BBC’ is systemically pro-EU and has FAILED Britain, Ofcom told
THE BBC has been accused of "systematic failure" to comply with its charter obligations to impartiality over 20 years in a major complaint lodged with Ofcom."
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...european-union
26-04-2021, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Percy Vere
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You've never heard of the beeb being called that? Well, my gast is well and truly flabbered I can tell you. Where have you been living these past 2 or 3 years? How come you've never seen the articles about the BBC receiving €200+ millions from the EU to promote only good news items?https://edm.parliament.uk/early-day-...ing-of-the-bbc
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...4m-eu-funding/
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...-tried-to-hide
There are many more links for you to look for if you're so inclined, which I doubt because it spoils your obvious bias towards the EU.
You'll never convince a remoaner.People are cancelling their TV licences for a number of reasons.
As has been mentioned, one good reason is because there is more worth watching on Netflix and Prime, and the cost of those two together equates to less than the TV Tax.
Another is that there is nothing worth watching on the BBC these days, unless you're into cookery programmes, etc.
Other channels, like ITV, Channel 4 and Channel 5 can all be watched on 'catch-up' without a TV licence.
Finally, people are sick and tired of the pro-EU and 'woke' bias they see on the BBC news. Why watch that if you strongly disagree with it. Personally, I find more unbiased news on the internet and, hopefully when it arrives, GB News.
26-04-2021, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Banchory
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Making up fantasy figures undermines your argument, yes there are those who don’t want to pay the licence fee, mostly because they subscribe to Netflix or a similar service.The number of licences seems to be fairly constant over the last 10 years at 25.5 million and various estimates put those not paying to be between 2.5 and 3.5 million which at the top eng is about 12% of households
https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/about/...d-figures-AB18
https://www.gosocial.co/3-5-million-...reaming-sites/
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According to figures obtained under Freedom of Information rules, a massive 788,605 people terminated their TV licence in 2017.
Making this even more significant is the fact that in 2016, 817,509 people cancelled, and in 2017, 945,751 others took the final plunge.
Just add up all the figures Banchory.....
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