ISIS, Paris Attacks, False Flags and Border Controls.

Hi

The French internal report into the attacks has been obtained and published .

It shows just how much of a threat ISIS are, and how big they are in Europe.

For those of you who think that leaving the EU will make us safer, think again.

It will not make any difference whatsoever.

ISIS are here in the UK, many of the clever Jihadists are home grown, our own citizens.

Intelligent, articulate, sophisticated and ruthless, with some very clever scientists amongst them.

If we do have a successful attack here, it will not be a False Flag event, it will be real.

Our internal Enforcement Agencies were heavily cut by the Coalition Government, the Government is now playing catch up, it will take years.

Leaving the EU will make naff all difference to our Border Security, taking back control of our Borders will also take years, whether we are in our out, it is just a joke, but one of our own making.

Border Control was destroyed by the last Labour Government and nothing effective has been done to improve it, in spite of all the spin by the present bunch of incompetents.

There is a link here.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/m...ency-broken-up

It is still just as bad, if not worse.

We are our own worst enemies, we really are.

In or out of the EU doesn't matter really, what we need to be doing is putting back our systems to what they were and the Government are not getting a move on.

An example of the stupidity.

We let terrorists and criminals float in and out of the UK with impunity.

We have a computer system which is supposed to stop this and staff are supposed to be trained in it's use.

One of my ex staff flew out to Greece last year, a trip paid for by the UK Government,a meeting on Border Control in fact.

As is the norm, if you work for certain Enforcement Agencies, your passport is flagged, as it is supposed to be for the baddies, it comes up on the system.

On his return, he was stopped at Passport Control, taken to a room and questioned as to where he had been, what for, etc etc.

All because they had not scrolled down to see why he was flagged.

He was somewhat annoyed, especially as the computer system is so useless that it cannot link directly to others so many of the baddies are not even on it.

In or out, Brexit or not, is irrelevant in this respect.

We will still be controlled by incompetents, this is an issue which needs to be addressed now, it should have been addressed years ago, it hasn't.

For those who are interested, the Paris Attack thingy is here.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/20/wo...ref=world&_r=0

A long read, but it may be of interest.

Re: ISIS, Paris Attacks, False Flags and Border Controls.

So they captured the headman and now here's the backlash in Brussels, airport and metro.

Re: ISIS, Paris Attacks, False Flags and Border Controls.

Hi

Good Morning Ruthio.

I do not think that we are anywhere near yet capturing the headmen behind these attacks.

Somebody supplied him with the training, the logistics and more importantly the money.

He did not do it without help.

His ability to evade capture is far more to do with the incompetence of the Belgium Security Services than his abilities as a terrorist.

He very nearly got away this time as well, ran straight out of the front door and was legging it simply because the Belgians had left a gaping hole to the right hand side of the front door of the premises he was in.

The only reason he got away the first time was the Belgians have a law prohibiting raids on domestic properties at night.

Re: ISIS, Paris Attacks, False Flags and Border Controls.

I read the article posted the other day but didn't get around to commenting..
An interesting read thanks Gibbs

I found this bit to be scary, if true it demonstrates a chaotic system of communication ...

I don't think our exit from the EU will have any effect either and the article above shows a lack of cooperation already exist between countries a cooperation some feared would be lost if we leave the EU.

There are undoubtedly terrorists like the 90 mentioned in the article who are thought to have come into europe with some of the Paris bombers but I understand IS has many 'sympathiser cells' in lots of countries who operate autonomously and that they are often made up of disaffected young Muslims who feel their religion has been demonised since 9/11 and successive countries with muslim populations attacked by the west so they are 'under threat'.
I am sure we have a number of those cells here and our being in or out of the EU will make little difference to them

Re: ISIS, Paris Attacks, False Flags and Border Controls.

Hi

I agree Meg.

The Paris attacker had been to the UK, in and out and not picked up.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a6772126.html

Our Border Security is a problem of our own making, it needs to be addressed.

It has nothing to do with in or out of the EU, he came in, a known subject of interest, he should have been picked up on the system, he wasn't.

It is the failure of successive Governments who have got us into this mess.

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i don't often agree with mr milliband but he has said today its sickening for either side of the debate to use these attacks for political gain.

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Did anyone watch the Panorama programme last night, one of the Paris killers having carried out his carnage telephoned a friend in Belgium to come and pick him up. Once he was picked up they went through no less that three police checkpoints and had their papers checked (including one person on the wanted list) and the car driver admitted to the police he had been drinking but the police said they had more important things to worry about and let them pass .
I would have thought any car carrying young men that night would have warranted close scrutiny . So they escaped to plan more carnage .

Also the Head of France's GIGN the French equivalent of our "SAS" was put on standby at the start of the Paris bombings but they were not used because the police said they could handle it. Had they been used there was a chance the Bataclan siege which lasted some hours could have been ended sooner.

It was also mentioned on the radio this morning that thanks to Schengen some of the Paris killers crossed over no less than 5 borders unchecked and were able to go from Belgium to France at will carrying bombs and Kalashnikov's .

This doesn't give me a lot of trust in the security measures carried out in some member countries of the EU .
It all sounds a bit of a shambles...