16-11-2016, 10:19 PM
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The kinnocks
I believe the kinnocks have made a fair bit out of Europe over the years but the son Steven was on radio tonight and rather shocked me when he virtually spat the word nationalist out as if it was worst thing anyone could be accused of being.Now as far as I am concerned being proud of your country is ok for other countries so why is it so wrong for us Brits to be proud of ours ?
He's allowed as anyone is to be for the eu, but obviously he doesn't think brexiteers are allowed a voice too as being proud of our country is dodgy in the extreme.
16-11-2016, 11:58 PM
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Re: The kinnocks
This is the very point I have raised in other threads. The globalist and EU agenda aims to eradicate the notion of Nationalism because they can never achieve an all-controlling one-world Government while everyone is still so emotionally and historically tied to their native countries.There is nothing at all wrong in being proud of one's heritage and Nation. There is nothing at all wrong in being British and being proud to be British. Same as there is nothing at all wrong with people from Japan being proud of being Japanese and loving the culture and heritage of Japan.
The global agenda aims to destroy people's inherent ties to their country by first labelling this pride as "Nationalism" to give it focus, and then by making Nationalism an outlawed and very un-PC term.
It is incredibly divisive.
Already they have brainwashed many young people via the education system. They come out not caring about Britain at all, not having any pride or interest in Britain as a country but rather being steered towards being Europeans of no particular fixed abode. They don't realise of course that giving up one's sovereignty will mean giving up freedoms and levels of influence and the ability to manage affairs in your own country. All they care about is their own careers, how they will make money and progress. They don't have the benefit of history and they care very little for the elderly, some of whom fought in wars to preserve the freedoms they enjoy. The brainwashing has been fairly successful.
In addition to focussing on the term Nationalism and Nationalists and making that term "bad", they will also introduce new laws to make it an offence to be such.
Just as there are racism laws, there will be Nationalism laws.
The push is clearly towards the new kid on the block called "Multiculturism". We must embrace all cultures, be part of a potpourri of different races and thereby lose our heritage and origins.
This has to be achieved by the EU and globalist elites if there are ever to have a chance of creating their one-world government.
How can they change mindsets from Nationalism to Multiculturism?
Very simple.
They purposefully initiate mass immigration into the EU and esp Britain from multiple directions, from the Middle East, from Africa and from other EU states.
Once you flood a country with enough foreigners, those foreigners gain special status. Their needs can be pandered to under the auspices of fairness and multiculturism. Hence the influx of Muslims will result in lots of mosques appearing and the green light for daily wailing to call the people to prayer. Anyone objecting to the gradual erosion of British culture and traditions will be labelled a Nationalist and Racist and will be "dealt with".
In this way, the elites destroy what is currently Britain and turn it into a nothing EU state, a piece of land housing a huge mix of different cultures and races which is neither one nor the other.
At this point they win. At this point people and esp the youth, begin to think of themselves as simply Europeans (many already do) and once that is achieved, the EU becomes the Federal States Of Europe and controls everything.
The vote for Brexit could, if it goes through, save all this at the final hour. If the British people can collectively wake the **** up and realise what is happening and how they and their country is being purposefully destroyed, they have a chance to turn it around and make Britain a great country again.
It won't be easy because we live in a world where people will do almost anything for money and that includes selling their cultural heritage and identity down the river. The "City Boys" all voted Remain because they are entrenched in the corrupt financial systems that provide them with tons of money to fund their sports cars and fancy pads and yachts.
They don't care about Britain, they care about money.
The rest of us who have to suffer the outfall of those corrupt financial systems, destroyed pensions, high taxes, high costs, have to collectively come together, stop fighting amongst ourselves and realise who the real enemy is here.
Labour, Lib Dem or Conservative doesn't matter one iota. People like UJ need to wake up and realise this urgently. We are losing our country because corrupt people and criminals are running the show. We should demand a total reform of the voting system, demand that the British Constitution is properly written down and enforced and repeal all the EU Bills and Acts that have been pushed through without public consent.
There is still time.
17-11-2016, 01:36 AM
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Re: The kinnocks
Originally Posted by Realist
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This is the very point I have raised in other threads. The globalist and EU agenda aims to eradicate the notion of Nationalism because they can never achieve an all-controlling one-world Government while everyone is still so emotionally and historically tied to their native countries.There is nothing at all wrong in being proud of one's heritage and Nation. There is nothing at all wrong in being British and being proud to be British. Same as there is nothing at all wrong with people from Japan being proud of being Japanese and loving the culture and heritage of Japan.
The global agenda aims to destroy people's inherent ties to their country by first labelling this pride as "Nationalism" to give it focus, and then by making Nationalism an outlawed and very un-PC term.
It is incredibly divisive.
Already they have brainwashed many young people via the education system. They come out not caring about Britain at all, not having any pride or interest in Britain as a country but rather being steered towards being Europeans of no particular fixed abode. They don't realise of course that giving up one's sovereignty will mean giving up freedoms and levels of influence and the ability to manage affairs in your own country. All they care about is their own careers, how they will make money and progress. They don't have the benefit of history and they care very little for the elderly, some of whom fought in wars to preserve the freedoms they enjoy. The brainwashing has been fairly successful.
In addition to focussing on the term Nationalism and Nationalists and making that term "bad", they will also introduce new laws to make it an offence to be such.
Just as there are racism laws, there will be Nationalism laws.
The push is clearly towards the new kid on the block called "Multiculturism". We must embrace all cultures, be part of a potpourri of different races and thereby lose our heritage and origins.
This has to be achieved by the EU and globalist elites if there are ever to have a chance of creating their one-world government.
How can they change mindsets from Nationalism to Multiculturism?
Very simple.
They purposefully initiate mass immigration into the EU and esp Britain from multiple directions, from the Middle East, from Africa and from other EU states.
Once you flood a country with enough foreigners, those foreigners gain special status. Their needs can be pandered to under the auspices of fairness and multiculturism. Hence the influx of Muslims will result in lots of mosques appearing and the green light for daily wailing to call the people to prayer. Anyone objecting to the gradual erosion of British culture and traditions will be labelled a Nationalist and Racist and will be "dealt with".
In this way, the elites destroy what is currently Britain and turn it into a nothing EU state, a piece of land housing a huge mix of different cultures and races which is neither one nor the other.
At this point they win. At this point people and esp the youth, begin to think of themselves as simply Europeans (many already do) and once that is achieved, the EU becomes the Federal States Of Europe and controls everything.
The vote for Brexit could, if it goes through, save all this at the final hour. If the British people can collectively wake the **** up and realise what is happening and how they and their country is being purposefully destroyed, they have a chance to turn it around and make Britain a great country again.
It won't be easy because we live in a world where people will do almost anything for money and that includes selling their cultural heritage and identity down the river. The "City Boys" all voted Remain because they are entrenched in the corrupt financial systems that provide them with tons of money to fund their sports cars and fancy pads and yachts.
They don't care about Britain, they care about money.
The rest of us who have to suffer the outfall of those corrupt financial systems, destroyed pensions, high taxes, high costs, have to collectively come together, stop fighting amongst ourselves and realise who the real enemy is here.
Labour, Lib Dem or Conservative doesn't matter one iota. People like UJ need to wake up and realise this urgently. We are losing our country because corrupt people and criminals are running the show. We should demand a total reform of the voting system, demand that the British Constitution is properly written down and enforced and repeal all the EU Bills and Acts that have been pushed through without public consent.
There is still time.
An excellent post that explains clearly one of the subversive attacks on our country, not only by the EU but especially by the left wing.
If the remainiacs, and especially this Kinnock sprog, feel so bad about being British, perhaps they'd like to take the opportunity to emigrate to another EU country whilst they still have the chance.
17-11-2016, 02:03 AM
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Re: The kinnocks
Originally Posted by Realist
->
This is the very point I have raised in other threads. The globalist and EU agenda aims to eradicate the notion of Nationalism because they can never achieve an all-controlling one-world Government while everyone is still so emotionally and historically tied to their native countries.There is nothing at all wrong in being proud of one's heritage and Nation. There is nothing at all wrong in being British and being proud to be British. Same as there is nothing at all wrong with people from Japan being proud of being Japanese and loving the culture and heritage of Japan.
The global agenda aims to destroy people's inherent ties to their country by first labelling this pride as "Nationalism" to give it focus, and then by making Nationalism an outlawed and very un-PC term.
It is incredibly divisive.
Already they have brainwashed many young people via the education system. They come out not caring about Britain at all, not having any pride or interest in Britain as a country but rather being steered towards being Europeans of no particular fixed abode. They don't realise of course that giving up one's sovereignty will mean giving up freedoms and levels of influence and the ability to manage affairs in your own country. All they care about is their own careers, how they will make money and progress. They don't have the benefit of history and they care very little for the elderly, some of whom fought in wars to preserve the freedoms they enjoy. The brainwashing has been fairly successful.
In addition to focussing on the term Nationalism and Nationalists and making that term "bad", they will also introduce new laws to make it an offence to be such.
Just as there are racism laws, there will be Nationalism laws.
The push is clearly towards the new kid on the block called "Multiculturism". We must embrace all cultures, be part of a potpourri of different races and thereby lose our heritage and origins.
This has to be achieved by the EU and globalist elites if there are ever to have a chance of creating their one-world government.
How can they change mindsets from Nationalism to Multiculturism?
Very simple.
They purposefully initiate mass immigration into the EU and esp Britain from multiple directions, from the Middle East, from Africa and from other EU states.
Once you flood a country with enough foreigners, those foreigners gain special status. Their needs can be pandered to under the auspices of fairness and multiculturism. Hence the influx of Muslims will result in lots of mosques appearing and the green light for daily wailing to call the people to prayer. Anyone objecting to the gradual erosion of British culture and traditions will be labelled a Nationalist and Racist and will be "dealt with".
In this way, the elites destroy what is currently Britain and turn it into a nothing EU state, a piece of land housing a huge mix of different cultures and races which is neither one nor the other.
At this point they win. At this point people and esp the youth, begin to think of themselves as simply Europeans (many already do) and once that is achieved, the EU becomes the Federal States Of Europe and controls everything.
The vote for Brexit could, if it goes through, save all this at the final hour. If the British people can collectively wake the **** up and realise what is happening and how they and their country is being purposefully destroyed, they have a chance to turn it around and make Britain a great country again.
It won't be easy because we live in a world where people will do almost anything for money and that includes selling their cultural heritage and identity down the river. The "City Boys" all voted Remain because they are entrenched in the corrupt financial systems that provide them with tons of money to fund their sports cars and fancy pads and yachts.
They don't care about Britain, they care about money.
The rest of us who have to suffer the outfall of those corrupt financial systems, destroyed pensions, high taxes, high costs, have to collectively come together, stop fighting amongst ourselves and realise who the real enemy is here.
Labour, Lib Dem or Conservative doesn't matter one iota. People like UJ need to wake up and realise this urgently. We are losing our country because corrupt people and criminals are running the show. We should demand a total reform of the voting system, demand that the British Constitution is properly written down and enforced and repeal all the EU Bills and Acts that have been pushed through without public consent.
There is still time.
17-11-2016, 02:12 AM
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Re: The kinnocks
you left one essential ingredient out "compulsory voting"! - works well in OZ.OZ claims [with some justification] that it is a v/good example of a successful multicultural society. But here's the trick - we control very strictly immigration rights as you well know and strangely enough most of the immigrants whether Italians from 50 years ago or Muslims recently seem to want to embrace the 'ozzie' way of lfe as well as retaining their own cultural behaviors - it works well - maybe it's the large amount of sunshine that makes us all happy?
oh and just before our own global trotter muddies the waters - I live in a predominantly Indigenous community who also embrace ozzie traditions as well as retaining their own - we share both. Sure there are still problems but they are being addressed step by step
17-11-2016, 10:04 AM
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Re: The kinnocks
Originally Posted by gumbud
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you left one essential ingredient out "compulsory voting"! - works well in OZ.OZ claims [with some justification] that it is a v/good example of a successful multicultural society. But here's the trick - we control very strictly immigration rights as you well know and strangely enough most of the immigrants whether Italians from 50 years ago or Muslims recently seem to want to embrace the 'ozzie' way of lfe as well as retaining their own cultural behaviors - it works well - maybe it's the large amount of sunshine that makes us all happy?
oh and just before our own global trotter muddies the waters - I live in a predominantly Indigenous community who also embrace ozzie traditions as well as retaining their own - we share both. Sure there are still problems but they are being addressed step by step
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