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21-11-2020, 12:44 PM
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How Do You Know What Your Job Is/Was?

These days, when we are in a job, we are supposed to know, exactly, what the job is.

That would be advised to us, in the form of a written "Job Description", which tells us of all the things we should do, including performance requirements, Health & Safety..etc.

Also, we're supposed to be kept informed of how well we're performing, against that job description.

Were you happy with what you were told?

Did you ever get conned? (example - get asked to retro sign a safety procedure just after someone got hurt?)

If you weren't given any of the above, would you push for it?
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These days, when we are in a job, we are supposed to know, exactly, what the job is.

That would be advised to us, in the form of a written "Job Description", which tells us of all the things we should do, including performance requirements, Health & Safety..etc.

Also, we're supposed to be kept informed of how well we're performing, against that job description.

Were you happy with what you were told?

Did you ever get conned? (example - get asked to retro sign a safety procedure just after someone got hurt?)

If you weren't given any of the above, would you push for it?
Abso-bloomin-right I would! There is a legal requirement that you should be given a written contract of employment.

As for feedback on performance, if you don't like what you get told then do something about it. Murdering the assessor is not always successful though.

In the case of retro approving a safety procedure after an incident --- absolutely not under any circumstances. That could get you in jail and rightly so.
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21-11-2020, 02:35 PM
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Abso-bloomin-right I would! There is a legal requirement that you should be given a written contract of employment.

As for feedback on performance, if you don't like what you get told then do something about it. Murdering the assessor is not always successful though.

In the case of retro approving a safety procedure after an incident --- absolutely not under any circumstances. That could get you in jail and rightly so.
I agree!

If a boss comes over with a Brand New, re-written, document, it's not a bad idea to make sure that the date is correct for the day you sign up.

A "new" document with a 6 month old date on it might be a bit smelly!

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21-11-2020, 05:13 PM
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Re: How Do You Know What Your Job Is/Was?

Originally Posted by Tedc ->
These days, when we are in a job, we are supposed to know, exactly, what the job is.

That would be advised to us, in the form of a written "Job Description", which tells us of all the things we should do, including performance requirements, Health & Safety..etc.

Also, we're supposed to be kept informed of how well we're performing, against that job description.

Were you happy with what you were told?

Did you ever get conned? (example - get asked to retro sign a safety procedure just after someone got hurt?)

If you weren't given any of the above, would you push for it?
The Self Employed don't need KPIs, the best indicator is the flow of cash into the Bank
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21-11-2020, 08:06 PM
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Re: How Do You Know What Your Job Is/Was?

Originally Posted by Tedc ->
These days, when we are in a job, we are supposed to know, exactly, what the job is.

That would be advised to us, in the form of a written "Job Description", which tells us of all the things we should do, including performance requirements, Health & Safety..etc.

Also, we're supposed to be kept informed of how well we're performing, against that job description.

Were you happy with what you were told?

Did you ever get conned? (example - get asked to retro sign a safety procedure just after someone got hurt?)

If you weren't given any of the above, would you push for it?
I always knew what my job was. A six-year trade apprenticeship plus a trade union made sure of that. Job descriptions were never signed, again the trade union took care of that and instructed us never to sign any documentation without prior consultation with them.

A retrospective signature after an accident involving safety procedures is something I would never do anyway. A trade union representative would ensure in those circumstanced the correct procedure was followed, that was a certainty.
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21-11-2020, 08:17 PM
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... best freelance. It always worked for me.
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Do the job you were hired to do, then do it one step further and one step looking forward.

It has always worked for me.

Keeps you out of trouble, and the bosses don't mess with you.
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21-11-2020, 09:32 PM
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As a time served mechanical engineer and general machinist, one of my jobs was to tell the boss what was possible, and how to do it because he knew bugger all....
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22-11-2020, 06:12 AM
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I spent 35 years as a counsellor after graduating with degrees in social work and applied psychology. I worked in many settings. Had my own practice for many years. The most valuable things I knew I had learned at the end of those 35 years was firstly, just how much I didn't know, and secondly, how to listen. That's the thing I always knew I had to do.. listen. If you can do that properly, everything else follows.
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22-11-2020, 08:20 AM
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I always pretty much wrote my own job description I was quite hard on myself too

Actually Ted I thought this thread was going to be about the lack of a job description for retirement...we could do with one of those
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