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COVID-19: NHS chiefs warn of 'third wave' of cases amid concerns over Christmas relax

Boris Johnson has been warned that a further relaxation of restrictions over Christmas could trigger another wave of coronavirus infections.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...ation-12159772

The coronavirus tier system is due to be reviewed on Wednesday, two weeks after it was first imposed following England's national lockdown in November.

It comes ahead of a UK-wide relaxation of social distancing rules for Christmas, allowing up to three households to get together in homes and places of worship between 23-27 December.

NHS Providers, which represents health trusts in England, has told the prime minister in a letter to exercise "extreme caution" when making the decision to move any areas into a lower COVID-19 tier. NHS bosses say areas which need to be moved into Tier 3 should be done so "as soon as this is needed, without any delay".

NHS Providers CEO Chris Hopson said health workers are "really worried", adding that due to a surge in COVID-19 patients and a rise in infection rates, hospitals are facing a difficult period.

"Any extra social contact equals virus spread," he said. "We all want to get together, but we need to ensure we look at the evidence. Although we've made some good progress... the reality is the progress we've made as a whole is at the lowest end of expectations. We've got to keep going with these tough restrictions over winter... we cannot take risks".

NHS bosses are concerned that the UK could follow in the footsteps of the US, which experienced record coronavirus-related hospitalisations and infections following Thanksgiving, when millions of families got together to celebrate.
Ominously, even without relaxation of rules, the daily number of recorded cases, having been reduced from 31,000 a day at the beginning of November to 14,000 at the end of November, has risen to over 21,000 as of yesterday .....
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Yes Omah, they've been saying on our local news how the infection rates are creeping up again.

Boris is on a loser whatever he does.
Can you imagine the outcry if he kept a tight lockdown all over Christmas? He would be lynched!
Then he is in the poo because he tries to relent a little. Then if/when a third surge happens, he will be blamed for that too.

I don't believe for a moment, that ANY politician could have prevented, or stopped, Covid. So perhaps some people ought to give him a break unless they could do any better themselves.

I would love to ask him if he would still have taken the job if he had known what was ahead with Brexit and Covid!
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Originally Posted by Mups ->
Yes Omah, they've been saying on our local news how the infection rates are creeping up again.

Boris is on a loser whatever he does.
Can you imagine the outcry if he kept a tight lockdown all over Christmas? He would be lynched!
Then he is in the poo because he tries to relent a little and if/when a third surge happens, he will be blamed for that too.

I don't believe for a moment, that ANY politician could have prevented, or stopped, Covid. So perhaps some people ought to give him a break unless they could do any better themselves.

I would love to ask him if he would still have taken the job if he had known what was ahead with Brexit and Covid!
BJ's "optimism" has been severly dented by his continued lack of success (AKA failure) in both combating COVID-19 (moonshot) and securing Brexit (oven-ready) .....

His decision to rely on SPADS and cronies to "govern" the country has massively backfired on him personally - the results of their meddling has been chaos and confusion in every sector - his intervention in the control of COVID-19 has resulted in the UK having the highest associated death-rate in Europe and, along with France, the highest number of cases behind the much larger countries of USA, India, Brazil and Russia.
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For those who think that being infected with COVID-19 and surviving will give the survivor immunity, think again .....

A local plumber came to fix a sink leak at my house today - a young, strapping lad of 21 and over 6 feet tall - he told me that he'd been struck down twice and tested positive for COVID-19 .....

Early in the year, his symptoms were mainly related to breathing and the difficulty in just getting a breath plus overwhelming fatigue. The second bout, too, brought overwhelming fatigue but, this time, not breathing problems but changes to taste and smell, resulting in a complete loss of appetite and massive weight loss. Luckily, being young, he's recovered from the primary symptoms of both bouts but he's still occasionally "out-of-sorts" and "not himself". Apparently, the two infections were of slightly different strains so he's hoping there isn't a third strain lurking in a client's house .....
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Just been reading about a new strain of this virus that's showing up in the London Area, really worrying and just what we don't want.
As I'm on the tablet I can't post a link but it's on the BBC News Site.
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Re: COVID-19: NHS chiefs warn of 'third wave' of cases amid concerns over Christmas relax

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Just been reading about a new strain of this virus that's showing up in the London Area, really worrying and just what we don't want.
As I'm on the tablet I can't post a link but it's on the BBC News Site.
Perhaps this is the one Roxy:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55308211

How's that for instant service one minute flat!
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Yes Baz that's it. Thanks.
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Yes Baz that's it. Thanks.
That's alright Roxy, you are more than welcome.
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Just been reading about a new strain of this virus that's showing up in the London Area, really worrying and just what we don't want.
As I'm on the tablet I can't post a link but it's on the BBC News Site.
Thanks .....

'New variant' of coronavirus identified - Hancock

A new variant of coronavirus has been found which is growing faster in some parts of England, MPs have been told.

Health Secretary Matt Hancock said at least 60 different local authorities had recorded Covid infections caused by the new variant.

He said the World Health Organization had been notified and UK scientists were doing detailed studies.

He said there was "nothing to suggest" it caused worse disease or that vaccines would no longer work.
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'Rash' Christmas rules 'will cost many lives'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55311717

The plan to ease Covid rules over Christmas in the UK is a "rash decision" that will "cost many lives", two leading medical journals have said.

The Health Service Journal and British Medical Journal said people might see the lifting of restrictions "as permission to drop their guard".

In a joint editorial criticising the UK's Christmas rules, the editors of HSJ and BMJ wrote:

"We believe the government is about to blunder into another major error that will cost many lives. "If our political leaders fail to take swift and decisive action, they can no longer claim to be 'protecting the NHS'."
They stressed that demand on the NHS was increasing, and added that a new strain of coronavirus "has introduced further potential jeopardy".
Another 20,000 cases (= 600,000 a month) and 500 deaths (= 15,000 a month) today ..
 
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