14-07-2021, 10:31 AM
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Homelessness
Here in the US we've seen a spike in homelessness during the pandemic. There are literally small and large tent cities, where the homeless have gravitated. The city had to take measures, and started building organized and monitored tent cities on parking lots.Is this happening where you live, homelessness increasing?
14-07-2021, 10:47 AM
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Re: Homelessness
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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There is absolutely no need for anyone in the UK to live rough. It is 100% a matter of choice.
Originally Posted by Danny
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Really? I didn't know that. 
Australia and the UK decided to get rid of mental institutions many, many years ago (1990s) in favour of smaller accommodations so the governments happily closed the Asylums but forgot about the promised community based mental health care.
Many of the people living on the streets should have been in institutions or community mental health care but have ended up on the street. it is largely a matter of funding.
I don't think Covid has made much difference especially with the moratorium on evictions
14-07-2021, 10:57 AM
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Re: Homelessness
Originally Posted by Danny
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Really? I didn't know that.
Unfortunately the socialists describe this as being homeless because it is not permanent which, like the definition of poverty in the UK creates entirely the wrong impression.
It's not a matter of funding. It's a matter of choice.
If, however, "candidates" choose to spend what is given to them on drink or drugs they have made their choice but even then many large towns and cities provide el-cheepo tents to give some protection.
Me? I'd let them just deal with the consequences of their choice.
14-07-2021, 11:04 AM
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Re: Homelessness
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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Yes. People are given hand outs each week and if roofless are provided with emergency accommodation and temporary accommodation which while is often far from ideal is made available. Unfortunately the socialists describe this as being homeless because it is not permanent which, like the definition of poverty in the UK creates entirely the wrong impression.
It's not a matter of funding. It's a matter of choice.
If, however, "candidates" choose to spend what is given to them on drink or drugs they have made their choice but even then many large towns and cities provide el-cheepo tents to give some protection.
Me? I'd let them just deal with the consequences of their choice.
14-07-2021, 11:11 AM
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Re: Homelessness
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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Yes. People are given hand outs each week and if roofless are provided with emergency accommodation and temporary accommodation which while is often far from ideal is made available. Unfortunately the socialists describe this as being homeless because it is not permanent which, like the definition of poverty in the UK creates entirely the wrong impression.
It's not a matter of funding. It's a matter of choice.
If, however, "candidates" choose to spend what is given to them on drink or drugs they have made their choice but even then many large towns and cities provide el-cheepo tents to give some protection.
Me? I'd let them just deal with the consequences of their choice.
Here we also have resources for the homeless. The shelters or emergency accommodations, however criminal behavior drug use and abusive staff, chase most people off. As far as to why someone is in that situation is not for me to judge. I don't have all the facts on each individual, however saying that it is their choice puts the onus directly on them and off society.
14-07-2021, 11:18 AM
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Re: Homelessness
Originally Posted by Danny
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Here we also have resources for the homeless. The shelters or emergency accommodations, however criminal behavior drug use and abusive staff, chase most people off. As far as to why someone is in that situation is not for me to judge. I don't have all the facts on each individual, however saying that it is their choice puts the onus directly on them and off society.
Dead right Danny. Here now homelessness is hitting middle class, previously successful or at least coping people, single, families who just cant manage any more. In Australia now rents are so high that even some people who have jobs find themselves behind the 8 ball. The "Australian dream" of home ownership is gone for many young people. I reckon our situation here would be similar to yours. Ive been to Colorado. It reminded me a lot of Western Australia here. Affluent..to a point. But a lot colder in winter.
14-07-2021, 11:26 AM
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Re: Homelessness
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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There is absolutely no need for anyone in the UK to live rough. It is 100% a matter of choice.
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