14-12-2016, 11:40 PM
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Residential care of the elderly is in private hands and private hands means profits and profit means neglect in quite a few homes. In some cases carers are not properly trained and paid minimum wage and in some instances less. In some homes the elderly suffer abuse neglect and ridicule.
14-12-2016, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Mups
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I think you've also got a good valid pont there Tpin.My poor old Mum was the most stubborn person I've ever met.
It was a tremendous worry for me trying to get her to accept help. When I finally managed to get extra help organised, I would go over to see her only to find she'd cancelled eveyone again!!
I loved her dearly, but the worry wore me to a frazzle.
As for retirement homes(not care homes) you should look into running one.....the costs are horrendous.
A pal owned one up until 4 years ago and we discussed the costs after I ribbed him over the fees.
His was a smallish business but still he had 30 full time staff + p/t
Not a lot when you consider there are 3 shifts per day.
This cost £30k per week(£1.5m per year)
Business rates were £40k per year.
Insurance alone was £15k
Electric/gas was over £100k per year
Maintenance bills exceeding £50k per year.
Thats just the tip of the iceberg.
14-12-2016, 11:47 PM
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I know too little about Britain's aged care policies to comment on its effectiveness.Sounds pretty grim though and Australia's position is probably not much better.
Governments tend to budget mainly with the next election in mind - not for the needs decades down the track.
Aus has introduced compulsory employer-subsidized superannuation though (ages ago) so that people needing care now often have a nest-egg squirreled away to at least augment pensions or other income.
However, just a quick 'stray' if I may ?
Originally Posted by Azure
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... they would rather throw good money after bad, and give it away to World Aid, where much is squandered.....
Might have happened in the past but these days (at least with Australian aid) the recipient country - or its leaders - rarely see any money.
OK, you need a dam - we'll build you a dam - but we'll supply the materials, employ a mix of local and Aus labour and we will totally manage the project.
Same with schools, hospitals, bridges, roads, food, sewerage - whatever.
Everything independently audited - not much opportunity for 'squander'.
14-12-2016, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Pumicestone
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I know too little about Britain's aged care policies to comment on its effectiveness.Sounds pretty grim though and Australia's position is probably not much better.
Governments tend to budget mainly with the next election in mind - not for the needs decades down the track.
Aus has introduced compulsory employer-subsidized superannuation though (ages ago) so that people needing care now often have a nest-egg squirreled away to at least augment pensions or other income.
However, just a quick 'stray' if I may ?
If developed countries just hand over a bunch of cash with no supervision or control that would be crazy.
Might have happened in the past but these days (at least with Australian aid) the recipient country - or its leaders - rarely see any money.
OK, you need a dam - we'll build you a dam - but we'll supply the materials, employ a mix of local and Aus labour and totally manage the project.
Same with schools, hospitals, bridges, roads, food, sewerage - whatever.
Gone are the days of governments squandering aid on champagne parties.
its the private/charity aid that doesnt get through or evenly distribute d (black market)
15-12-2016, 12:02 AM
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Yep, non-government 'charitable' aid is harder to track.But if legislation is enacted that says
"if you want to attract donations by making them tax-deductible, you must submit to certain governance and audit requirements - even snap inspections".
Sorts out most of the wheat from the chaff.
If people choose to support charities (usually religious) which do not comply - be it on their own heads if the god-botherers buy a new Mercedes every two years and trip around the globe First Class.
15-12-2016, 12:23 AM
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I doubt if Britain "wastes" much aid money these days.As I said, funds are now generally much better managed and controlled than in the past.
But if you have evidence ........ ?
Even so, millions of children starving to death ever year or dying from easily preventable diseases must surely bother most humans ?
Few developed countries contribute more than 1% or 2% of GDP.
And even then, there are often trade or defence strings-attached.
15-12-2016, 01:37 PM
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Some homes aren't even fit for elderly people to live in. They get abused & treated apallingly in some. One fairly local to me was closed not long ago because finally the PTB investigated the complaints.https://www.theguardian.com/society/...l-bbc-panorama
I know all are not bad, but even so, I hope I never get so frail that I need to go in one.
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