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| Yes, it's outdated |
   
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10 | 27.78% |
| No, the Royal Family are an asset to the country |
  
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23 | 63.89% |
| Neither for or against. |
  
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3 | 8.33% |
| I have never met them, so I don't know |
  
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0 | 0% |
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03-09-2016, 01:21 AM
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Re: The argument for and against a republic.
Originally Posted by CailinRua
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I also don't see where Britain is a democracy. Everyone living in Britain is referred to as the monarch's 'subjects'. To be subject, as I understand it, is to be subservient. In a genuine democracy, nobody would be subservient to anyone else.
As I said before this is a far more important issue than whether some watery tart threw a sword at you.
04-09-2016, 07:22 AM
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Re: The argument for and against a republic.
Originally Posted by Bruce
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To be an true democracy you need an elected government, Britain is half way there but until the upper house is elected cannot claim to be a true democracy.As I said before this is a far more important issue than whether some watery tart threw a sword at you.
First a statement of FACT.
The HOL can only ask the HOC to relook at a bill presented to them...the HOC will and if needed amend certain points of that Bill.The Bill is then presented to the HOL again and again it can be sent back to the HOC....
If the HOC present that 3rd amended bill again the HOL have no say and it passes into law.
That is TRUE democracy.
The HOL have no power to stop the elected Reps of the UK passing its there to just say "Hang on think a moment"
Question.
Is this a better system???
Such as in American where nothing gets done between an elected Congress and an elected Senate.
04-09-2016, 07:59 AM
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Re: The argument for and against a republic.
Originally Posted by CailinRua
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I wouldn't curtsey anyway.I also don't see where Britain is a democracy. Everyone living in Britain is referred to as the monarch's 'subjects'. To be subject, as I understand it, is to be subservient. In a genuine democracy, nobody would be subservient to anyone else.
I refuse to be referred to as a subject. Nobody is superior to me.
04-09-2016, 08:47 AM
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Re: The argument for and against a republic.
Originally Posted by galty
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OK Bruce.First a statement of FACT.
The HOL can only ask the HOC to relook at a bill presented to them...the HOC will and if needed amend certain points of that Bill.The Bill is then presented to the HOL again and again it can be sent back to the HOC....
If the HOC present that 3rd amended bill again the HOL have no say and it passes into law.
That is TRUE democracy.
The HOL have no power to stop the elected Reps of the UK passing its there to just say "Hang on think a moment"
Question.
Is this a better system???
Such as in American where nothing gets done between an elected Congress and an elected Senate.
In Australia bills can originate in the upper house or the lower house, the upper house is the state's house (ie each state no matter the population has the same number of members - elected by a quota (PR) system) the original idea was to prevent the bigger states bullying the smaller states. It is the house of review, the majority in the lower house rarely controls the upper house so negotiation and compromise are necessary. it works very well.
Why you mention the USA I have no idea, completely different type of government, not a parliamentary system at all. There are plenty of Parliamentary democracies in the world with elected upper and lower houses why on earth would you quote the USA?
04-09-2016, 12:36 PM
55
Re: The argument for and against a republic.
Originally Posted by spitfire
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Quite so, but we need to concede, some have superior bodies.
04-09-2016, 12:57 PM
56
Re: The argument for and against a republic.
Originally Posted by Rehab44
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Doesn't everyone say that, ,envy of world' without any proof to substantiate the claim?Maybe that's what we would like to think.
Anyone have any stats on what the young think of the monarchy? Pensioners are quite fond of them it seems based on the above posts.
I think the young Royals have made the Monarchy cool.
04-09-2016, 01:43 PM
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Re: The argument for and against a republic.
Princess Beatrice only had 15 holidays last year and her sister Eugenie only had 8 It's shocking how deprived they are, but the youth of Britain can look up to them because they are a role models and show the young what they can achieve if your daddy is rich and the son of a QueenI wish I was so cool.
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