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29-04-2021, 03:31 PM
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Re: Arlene Foster resigns

Originally Posted by RJG ->
Ireland was not part of the UK, until the British invaded it to try to make it part of their evil empire.
How far back in history do you want to go?


The Angevin Empire similarly split the island back in the 12th century after the Norman invasion when what would become the UK ruled large parts of it, so it's historic.
In fact it had been run by English/British kings for centuries.


Before then it was just like here in that it was pretty tribal.
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29-04-2021, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by RJG ->
Ireland was not part of the UK, until the British invaded it to try to make it part of their evil empire.
OMFO! Are you SERIOUS? Do you know NOTHING about British history! Original title was United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland but was reduced to the UK untill because of the treasonous behaviour of Ireland the island of Ireland was partitioned into Eire, and the separate part of the island comprising rump Ulster which is still a part of the United Kingdom.

And here's me, someone for whom English isn't my first language and my English nationality being one of two, having to teach my grandmother how to suck eggs! Wow!
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Re: Arlene Foster resigns

Originally Posted by Zaphod ->
How far back in history do you want to go?


The Angevin Empire similarly split the island back in the 12th century after the Norman invasion when what would become the UK ruled large parts of it, so it's historic.
In fact it had been run by English/British kings for centuries.


Before then it was just like here in that it was pretty tribal.
A lot of it is STILL tribal.
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29-04-2021, 03:45 PM
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Re: Arlene Foster resigns

Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
A lot of it is STILL tribal.
Agreed, especially in NI and in Scotland.
That from a Scot too.
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29-04-2021, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
They ARE British and the majority want to remain British and so they should.
But, Ireland, like England , is a not very big Island, complete in itself,
an entity if you wish, and has been inhabited by largely Irish
speaking people untill Albion split from the Catholic church and the
then king of England tried and failed to convert the majority of the
citizenry to Protestantism !!
That's when the real trouble started, the EU and all it entails is just
a recent add on complication to a complicated question made
even more complicated by matters of indoctrination etc used to
try to keep Ireland or part of it as part of UK??
The best solution for Ireland and the Irish would be for the NI
protestants to be assimilated and disperse all over the island and
for England to give up all claim and responsibility for any part of
lreland ??
Maybe it they all became atheists it would help ??
A similar thing should apply to the UK ie. England/Scotland &
Wales !!
UK is too small be a federation !!

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29-04-2021, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
But, Ireland, like England , is a not very big Island, complete in itself,
an entity if you wish, and has been inhabited by largely Irish
speaking people untill Albion split from the Catholic church and the
then king of England tried and failed to convert the majority of the
citizenry to Protestantism !!
That's when the real trouble started, the EU and all it entails is just
a recent add on complication to a complicated question made
even more complicated by matters of indoctrination etc used to
try to keep Ireland or part of it as part of UK??
The best solution for Ireland and the Irish would be for the NI
protestants to be assimilated and disperse all over the island and
for England to give up all claim and responsibility for any part of
lreland ??
Maybe it they all became atheists it would help ??
A similar thing should apply to the UK is, England/Scotland &
Wales !!
UK is too small be a federation !!

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Rubbish. Start by considering Gibraltar.
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29-04-2021, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
Rubbish. Start by considering Gibraltar.
If he's not going to consider the wishes of millions of Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish first he's certainly not likely to consider Gibraltar.
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29-04-2021, 04:40 PM
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Re: Arlene Foster resigns

Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
Rubbish. Start by considering Gibraltar.
Yes , and the Falklands et Al!
If the citizenry of those places vote for the status quo to continue
then that should prevail !!
I f not, then so be it !!

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29-04-2021, 04:52 PM
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Re: Arlene Foster resigns

Originally Posted by Zaphod ->
If he's not going to consider the wishes of millions of Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish first he's certainly not likely to consider Gibraltar.
The millions scots/ Welsh should consider themselves to be
BRITISH first, and then whatever their choice is second !!
What is wrong with that !?!?
Because there is an enclave of Scots in an area in, say, Australia,
Then should that area become Scotland ??
Don't be so tribal Zaphod !!

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... just seen her on the tele, she looks good. Ms d00d says she's got a toy boy. 😐


 
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