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Barmier: "The EU will not move one millimetre"

It appears that M. Barmier would prefer it if the UK just walks away from the EU!

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...n=Brexit_email

According to him, the EU 'will not move one millimetre' in our negotiations. In other words, he will not accept anything other than the EU's demands in full.

We will be assimilated! Resistance is futile!

So unless we are happy to comply with all of their demands we seem to have no other choice but to walk away as, according to him, further attempts at negotiations will be ignored.

Good for him! Perhaps we can walk away now.
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Re: Barmier: "The EU will not move one millimetre"

What a great name.
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Re: Barmier: "The EU will not move one millimetre"

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What a great name.
Indeed. There's BARMY, and there's BARMIER.

I am reminded of Rhian's thread (which seems to have died a death!).

Logically then, there must also be a BARMIEST. Perhaps that might be Junker?
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30-08-2017, 11:10 PM
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Re: Barmier: "The EU will not move one millimetre"

Why should the UK not agree citizen rights and the Irish border first? We cannot expect to have our cake (leaving) and eat it (lucrative trade deals) with no demands on the other side. I mean honestly how nave are these negotiators of ours?! The EU sets the terms because the EU make the rules. You cannot expect to leave your sports club and then expect to keep on using the equipment at half the price without some compromise on your part.
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Why should the UK not agree citizen rights and the Irish border first? We cannot expect to have our cake (leaving) and eat it (lucrative trade deals) with no demands on the other side. I mean honestly how nave are these negotiators of ours?! The EU sets the terms because the EU make the rules. You cannot expect to leave your sports club and then expect to keep on using the equipment at half the price without some compromise on your part.
Many of us just want to leave and pay nowt on the grounds that there is nowt to pay. The EU, as far as I know, have yet to justify the figures they demand.

I don't expect any special trade deals. Equally, I hope that they don't expect any trade deals from us.

If, in the future after we are successfully trading with the rest of the world, they want to think again they will have to agree to OUR terms.
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31-08-2017, 12:13 AM
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Re: Barmier: "The EU will not move one millimetre"

If we did that we'd force half the country into bankruptcy. It would be like imposing sanctions on ourselves. Plain stupid economically. They really are playing silly games about the Eu citizens, they should get that out of the way instead of trying to be clever and ending up burned. The clock is ticking. They should stop messing around and behave sensibly so we don't run out of options.
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31-08-2017, 12:45 AM
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Re: Barmier: "The EU will not move one millimetre"

Originally Posted by JBR View Post
It appears that M. Barmier would prefer it if the UK just walks away from the EU!

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...n=Brexit_email

According to him, the EU 'will not move one millimetre' in our negotiations. In other words, he will not accept anything other than the EU's demands in full.

We will be assimilated! Resistance is futile!

So unless we are happy to comply with all of their demands we seem to have no other choice but to walk away as, according to him, further attempts at negotiations will be ignored.

Good for him! Perhaps we can walk away now.
Oooohhhh JBR.
I do hope so!
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31-08-2017, 12:56 AM
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Re: Barmier: "The EU will not move one millimetre"

Originally Posted by JBR View Post
It appears that M. Barmier would prefer it if the UK just walks away from the EU!

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...n=Brexit_email

According to him, the EU 'will not move one millimetre' in our negotiations. In other words, he will not accept anything other than the EU's demands in full.

We will be assimilated! Resistance is futile!

So unless we are happy to comply with all of their demands we seem to have no other choice but to walk away as, according to him, further attempts at negotiations will be ignored.

Good for him! Perhaps we can walk away now.
Hi

He is a paid employee of the EU.

We decided to leave with the cry of Brexit means Brexit and No deal is better than a Bad deal from Theresa May.

We then triggered Article 50 giving ourselves two years to leave.

The EU got together.

They developed a plan for what was best for the EU after we left.

That plan was put to the Heads of the EU Countries and they and their respective Governments agreed it.

Meanwhile, back on the ranch, our bunch were still arguing amongst themselves on what sort of Brexit we wanted instead of getting on with the job.

The EU had their Civil Servants beavering away getting everything ready for the UK leaving, ours where left in the dark as to the Government wanted.

No clear direction and important things, basic things, on the to do list, not authorised by our Government.

Time passed, the EU had organised a bidding process for themselves as to which Country would get the bits like the Banking Authority, Medicines Agency etc which would be leaving the UK as we had decided to leave.

Boris, our Foreign Secretary, the second most important post in Government was taunting them, we can have our cake and eat it.

The EU continued putting things in place, there would be no deal on Banking, quite understandable, we would not let the EU control the trading in the .

The Banks, mostly Foreign Owned, had no alternative but to move HQ to the EU and pay tax there.

Euro Clearing and Euro banking was leaving the UK to be based in the EU.

The UK saves 9 Billion in EU Net Payments, the EU gains 20 Billion in tax receipts.

The EU awaits the start of negotiations after the UK triggers Article 50.

The UK decides to hold a General Election, more time wasted.

The EU continues beavering away at the boring bits.

The UK Government loses it's Majority at the Election.

More delays as the UK Government frantically searches for a partner to give it a Majority to carry out it's version of Brexit.

The EU continues beavering away, vast support mechanisms in place to support their Exporters with the effects of the UK leaving.

Negotiations start, with the EU position perfectly ready and in place, good to go.

The UK does not produce any detailed proposals.

The International Money Markets, on whom we depend for our lifestyle, we need to borrow vast amounts every year respond.

Our Interest Payments go up by 18 Billion a year, twice what we pay the EU.

We publish some of our position papers and head for round two.

The EU says get lost, we are not agreeing to these.

The sinks further.

We have a tantrum and say but this is what we want.

The EU does not budge.

We then say we need a transition deal because we are not ready to leave.

The EU says tough, you are playing big boys games, if you want one you will pay through the nose for it.

We shout, but that is not fair.

The EU says it was your decision to leave, so pay up or shut up.
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31-08-2017, 07:46 AM
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Re: Barmier: "The EU will not move one millimetre"

I'm not convinced the EU position is done from a position of strength....more from a position of fear.
It's their fear that is creating this intransigence in their negotiating position and it's fear that prevents them from engaging with the UK productively and progressively.

There is no rational reason why the EU shouldn't be more accommodating to the UK offers other than anger, fear and an innate European need to punish their detractors.
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31-08-2017, 08:45 AM
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Re: Barmier: "The EU will not move one millimetre"

We tried to sort out emigrants and immigrants immediately after the vote, wanted to assure them they were OK. It's a bit rich Eu said no and now make it look like its our fault !

If Eu won't move then so be it, we can and I think we will.
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