19-07-2020, 01:59 PM
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Re: The Beginning of The End!
Originally Posted by Bread
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Feel free to prove me wrong Swimmy.You make a habit of calling people out then not being able to back up your claims.
1974 to 1979 was the worst period in britain for manufacturing - the unions nd socialism that caused that and put the working man on a 3 day week, the brain drain and britain out of work.
By logic, reversing that decision to join, you lose the economic benefit.
19-07-2020, 02:05 PM
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Re: The Beginning of The End!
Originally Posted by Solasch
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And after that your economic recovery started due to the EEC membership?
Nope
It was Thatcherism and getting rid of socialism that brought about our recovery. Until March this year the UK was out performing all 27 member states - despite Brexit and despite the UK being the least beneficiary if the single market
As soon as we voted leave we ended up with the lowest unemployment in the 27 and having more foreign investment than the 27 put together- even more than China.
Look where the 27 are now, bickering about your budget and getting nothing done. Easy to see where progress is being made.
19-07-2020, 02:11 PM
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Re: The Beginning of The End!
Originally Posted by Bread
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Nope It was Thatcherism and getting rid of socialism that brought about our recovery. Until March this year the UK was out performing all 27 member states - despite Brexit and despite the UK being the least beneficiary if the single market
As soon as we voted leave we ended up with the lowest unemployment in the 27 and having more foreign investment than the 27 put together- even more than China.
Look where the 27 are now, bickering about your budget and getting nothing done. Easy to see where progress is being made.
You mean brexit is a negative influence !?
19-07-2020, 02:46 PM
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Re: The Beginning of The End!
Originally Posted by Bread
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It is for the 27 as your finding out ....Nissan
Unilever
Dutch Shell
And that's just this month.
Ahead of Britain’s departure from the EU, the chairman of Dyson announced that his firm would move its headquarters to Singapore. Sir James Dyson was accused of hypocrisy, having been an ardent supporter of Brexit.
Honda
It said that by 2021, it would be getting rid of 3,500 jobs. Although the company said the closure had nothing to do with Brexit, for months it had warned of the dangers of a disorderly exit.
Ford
Steven Armstrong said the motor giant would have to look at its ‘manufacturing footprint in the UK’ as a result of the decision to leave the EU. The company has already closed its plant at Bridgend, which resulted in 1,700 job losses.
Barclays
The bank has moved £166bn worth of assets from the UK to Ireland. It said it could not wait ‘any longer’ to implement contingency plans to deal with Brexit.
Lloyds of London
The global insurance and reinsurance firm said it was working on transferring all European Economic Area (EEA) business to its new Brussels subsidiary before the end of 2020.
Jaguar Land Rover Owned by India’s Tata motors, the firm recorded a £395million first quarter loss, which it partly blamed on plant shutdowns ahead of the original Brexit deadline. It also announced in January that it would be cutting 4,500 jobs, the majority of which would fall in the UK.
British Steel
The company went into liquidation in May 2019, putting 4,000 jobs at risk. The owners blamed ‘Brexit related issues’, saying that European customers were putting off purchases because of uncertainty over future trading arrangements. HSBC The banking and financial services giant announced that it was shifting ownership of its Polish and Irish subsidiaries from its London base to a French unit. Chief executive John Flint said in February that uncertainty was leading to ‘customers postponing investment decisions’, which was slowing down the UK economy
Airbus
The company, which employs 14,000 people in Britain, has warned that the firm could be forced to shut down UK plants.
Chief Executive Tom Enders, warned that ‘businesses were unable to prepare for the future’.
He urged people in January not to listen to the ‘madness of Brexiteers’ who told them the firm ‘would always be here’ and would not move. He said: ‘They are wrong’.
Panasonic*(Moved its European headquarters from the UK to Amsterdam)
P&O (Shifted the registration of its UK vessels to Cyprus)
Sony (Moving European headquarters from the UK to the Netherlands)
AXA*(Moved UK staff to Republic due to Brexit)
UBS*(Moved €32 billion)
EBA (The European Banking Authority (EBA) closed its Canary Wharf office and will re-open in Paris, France)
Schaeffler*(Closed two UK plants because of Brexit)
Flybmi (Went bust, cancelling all flights with immediate effect and blamed Brexit as the main cause of its collapse)
EMA (The European Medicines Agency has closed its doors in the UK with the loss of 900 jobs ahead of Brexit)
MoneyGram (Will move its European headquarters out of London to Brussels)
Nissan (Nissan has reversed plans to invest in new manufacturing capacity in the U.K., citing ‘continuing uncertainty’ around Brexit) Toyota (Toyota has said that it could end U.K. production as early as 2023 if the country leaves the European Union without a deal)
Body Shop (Body Shop will be making staff redundant in the UK as they move some of their operations to Europe, ahead of Brexit) Michelin*(Michelin announced plans to close its factory in Dundee in 2020, nearly 50 years after it opened and where 845 people are employed)
And that is as per september 2019 https://metro.co.uk/2019/09/23/compa...exit-10795029/
19-07-2020, 02:49 PM
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Re: The Beginning of The End!
Originally Posted by Solasch
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DysonAhead of Britain’s departure from the EU, the chairman of Dyson announced that his firm would move its headquarters to Singapore. Sir James Dyson was accused of hypocrisy, having been an ardent supporter of Brexit.
Honda
It said that by 2021, it would be getting rid of 3,500 jobs. Although the company said the closure had nothing to do with Brexit, for months it had warned of the dangers of a disorderly exit.
Ford
Steven Armstrong said the motor giant would have to look at its ‘manufacturing footprint in the UK’ as a result of the decision to leave the EU. The company has already closed its plant at Bridgend, which resulted in 1,700 job losses.
Barclays
The bank has moved £166bn worth of assets from the UK to Ireland. It said it could not wait ‘any longer’ to implement contingency plans to deal with Brexit.
Lloyds of London
The global insurance and reinsurance firm said it was working on transferring all European Economic Area (EEA) business to its new Brussels subsidiary before the end of 2020.
Jaguar Land Rover Owned by India’s Tata motors, the firm recorded a £395million first quarter loss, which it partly blamed on plant shutdowns ahead of the original Brexit deadline. It also announced in January that it would be cutting 4,500 jobs, the majority of which would fall in the UK.
British Steel
The company went into liquidation in May 2019, putting 4,000 jobs at risk. The owners blamed ‘Brexit related issues’, saying that European customers were putting off purchases because of uncertainty over future trading arrangements. HSBC The banking and financial services giant announced that it was shifting ownership of its Polish and Irish subsidiaries from its London base to a French unit. Chief executive John Flint said in February that uncertainty was leading to ‘customers postponing investment decisions’, which was slowing down the UK economy
Airbus
The company, which employs 14,000 people in Britain, has warned that the firm could be forced to shut down UK plants.
Chief Executive Tom Enders, warned that ‘businesses were unable to prepare for the future’.
He urged people in January not to listen to the ‘madness of Brexiteers’ who told them the firm ‘would always be here’ and would not move. He said: ‘They are wrong’.
Panasonic*(Moved its European headquarters from the UK to Amsterdam)
P&O (Shifted the registration of its UK vessels to Cyprus)
Sony (Moving European headquarters from the UK to the Netherlands)
AXA*(Moved UK staff to Republic due to Brexit)
UBS*(Moved €32 billion)
EBA (The European Banking Authority (EBA) closed its Canary Wharf office and will re-open in Paris, France)
Schaeffler*(Closed two UK plants because of Brexit)
Flybmi (Went bust, cancelling all flights with immediate effect and blamed Brexit as the main cause of its collapse)
EMA (The European Medicines Agency has closed its doors in the UK with the loss of 900 jobs ahead of Brexit)
MoneyGram (Will move its European headquarters out of London to Brussels)
Nissan (Nissan has reversed plans to invest in new manufacturing capacity in the U.K., citing ‘continuing uncertainty’ around Brexit) Toyota (Toyota has said that it could end U.K. production as early as 2023 if the country leaves the European Union without a deal)
Body Shop (Body Shop will be making staff redundant in the UK as they move some of their operations to Europe, ahead of Brexit) Michelin*(Michelin announced plans to close its factory in Dundee in 2020, nearly 50 years after it opened and where 845 people are employed)
And that is as per september 2019 https://metro.co.uk/2019/09/23/compa...exit-10795029/
Reheated remainer nonesense.
It was bad enough the first time around. Nice bit about Nissan reversing its plans... i suggest you keep up with what's happening now not whats been posted on some historic remainer site like full fact or the BBC.
Toyota and Nissan are expanding here, Dyson still has his HQ in the UK etc etc.
Keep up Solasch your about a year behind the rest of the world.
Cone up with something original...
19-07-2020, 03:47 PM
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Re: The Beginning of The End!
Originally Posted by Bread
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Reheated remainer nonesense.It was bad enough the first time around. Nice bit about Nissan reversing its plans... i suggest you keep up with what's happening now not whats been posted on some historic remainer site like full fact or the BBC.
Toyota and Nissan are expanding here, Dyson still has his HQ in the UK etc etc.
Keep up Solasch your about a year behind the rest of the world.
Cone up with something original...
I suppose the predictions in the financial times about brexit hitting the hardest in constituencies voting for boris in his election are not true? https://www.ft.com/content/90e9880d-...d-8f59ae97d1ff
19-07-2020, 03:51 PM
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Re: The Beginning of The End!
Originally Posted by Solasch
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Oh, I'm very sorry. I didn't know all those companies returned to the UK. I'm very glad, because that is in the interest of workers in the UK.I suppose the predictions in the financial times about brexit hitting the hardest in constituencies voting for boris in his election are not true? https://www.ft.com/content/90e9880d-...d-8f59ae97d1ff
Just more junk from the "Daily Remainer," as Portillo likes to call it
19-07-2020, 04:10 PM
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Re: The Beginning of The End!
Originally Posted by Bread
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Just more junk from the "Daily Remainer," as Portillo likes to call it
I'd like to throw in a couple of points as well here if you don't mind.
Firstly, the European Medicines Agency had to close its UK office because it is an EU agency, and we're not in the EU any longer. Besides, almost every one of the 900 staff were offered relocation packages if they wanted to transfer with the company.
Secondly, the European Banking Authority closed its Canary Wharf office for EXACTLY the same reason.
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