Re: Children Should Be Seen And Not Heard.... Shouldn’t They?

Boy that is one Australian Outback sized indictment of us OGF.

Re: Children Should Be Seen And Not Heard.... Shouldn’t They?

Because it's where I grew up keezoy, and I can't speak for anywhere else. You either had to be a good fighter, or a good runner......I was the latter....

Re: Children Should Be Seen And Not Heard.... Shouldn’t They?

Fair enough. This is an example of what's happened to me a few times lately. I changed that post but you got to it too quickly. But never mind. I guess what you're saying is that it's a tough place to grow up yeah?..I bet.

Re: Children Should Be Seen And Not Heard.... Shouldn’t They?

Nonsense Muddy, quite a few lads joined the army who I went to school with. They went in as snotty nose wimps who couldn't even tie their own shoe laces, and came out gentlemen with skills and confidence, and a healthy respect for authority.

Taking the softly softly psychological approach and trying to reason with them as adults isn't working is it.....
I've never seen so many young people disrespectful of all forms of authority as I see now. Hating the police, teachers, politicians and even arguing with referees. And in the past, I've seen decisions and rules by the supervisors questioned. People these days think it impinges their human rights and damages their pride to obey rules and take orders. Could this be because society has become soft and bolshi...Reap what you sow....

Re: Children Should Be Seen And Not Heard.... Shouldn’t They?

Sorry keezoy, we seem to be overlapping....

Re: Children Should Be Seen And Not Heard.... Shouldn’t They?

So am I. I know so many families whose grown up children are either spongers and bleeding their parents dry or else they only ever visit under duress, or they use their parents as unpaid baby sitters while they go out to work full time and don't have their lives disrupted by their own kids. And before you all tell me how wonderful your own children are, I am of course aware not ALL children are like this - but nearly all the parents my age who are friends seem "blessed" with selfish offspring.

Re: Children Should Be Seen And Not Heard.... Shouldn’t They?

There could be hope yet

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-56548931

Re: Children Should Be Seen And Not Heard.... Shouldn’t They?

Yep. He was on ITV This Morning a couple of months ago.

Re: Children Should Be Seen And Not Heard.... Shouldn’t They?

Make up your mind, Dex. was it this morning, or was it a couple of months ago.

Re: Children Should Be Seen And Not Heard.... Shouldn’t They?

Getting kids out in the world early, taking a minute to go over expectations before going into a public place, and swiftly removing them if they act up -with zero tolerance - inclines them to be well-behaved and to enjoy the privileges of going to public places at fairly young ages. You act up, you don't go out. Period.

Failing to prevent, intervene, or discipline just sets kids up to be disciplined by others, whose involvement you might not appreciate.

Now as for a good swat on the bottom, I am guilty as charged. The last time I spanked my son, he had run out in front of a car. I wanted his attention, surprise, and immediate change. A little heart-to-heart discussion wouldn't have internalized the lesson in the way that quick swat did. I didn't spank my children often, but when I did, I assure you that I would have been applauded for doing so by society at large - and in time, the child in question.