26-06-2014, 11:43 AM
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ODD I think of it as englishness.and we have ukip, which is more acceptable then in france with front national, and some of the extreme groups on the continent,
it could be said, england has a self imposed limit on our extremes,
one message to liberal thinkers, the idea of embracing other cultures has its limits, better to preach , live and let live,
er i know easier said than done??
28-06-2014, 09:29 AM
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I'm not sure how this section relates to fairness in Britain but it is included so here goes:The modern economy is characterised by a variety of working patterns and a shift towards the knowledge and service sectors.
a round 63% of people in employment in the UK work in full-time jobs. One in 5 works part-time; 1 in 8 is self-employed; and 1 in 17 is on a temporary contract. These proportions have been roughly stable for the past 15 years. inextricably linked to this change is o ver the past four
decades, the proportion of women in employment has increased from 56% in 1971 to 70% in the three months to december 2008, many of whom take up part-time employment opportunities.
The recent rise of information technology has opened the door to other forms of flexibility, giving an increasing number of workers the freedom to work from home, or on the move, when necessary.
28-06-2014, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by gumbud
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I'm not sure how this section relates to fairness in Britain but it is included so here goes:seems to be a sense of stability here despite major changes in the type of employment available?
28-06-2014, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by gumbud
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there are so many angles to this aspect of 'fairness'. Oz seems to deal with its multiculturalism well but unlike UK has a strong immigration policy and practices [too strong some would say] which enables it to prevent the sort of flooding of immigrants UK gets. but on a predictive note, IMO there must surely come a point when the original national identity has become so diluted and swamped that something else emerges and the Britishness that we remember and can still just recognize will no longer exist. and some may say "well that's not fair"
It is all well and good for economists and liberal philosophers to preach about the benefits of mass immigration, but they are not the ones who have to live with the disadvantages. It is not them who have to compete for work with people prepared to accept much lower wages, it is not them who have to compete for doctors appointments, hospital appointments, for affordable housing, for school places etc etc. That privilege is reserved for the working class.
28-06-2014, 11:27 AM
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[QUOTE=gumbud;489370]I'm not sure how this section relates to fairness in Britain but it is included so here goes:seems to be a sense of stability here despite major changes in the type of employment available?[/QUOTE
Not really matey, since the statistics you quote take no account of nor even mention those who are on zero hour contracts.
28-06-2014, 11:39 AM
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[QUOTE=Uncle Joe;489476]
Originally Posted by gumbud
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I'm not sure how this section relates to fairness in Britain but it is included so here goes:seems to be a sense of stability here despite major changes in the type of employment available?[/QUOTE
Not really matey, since the statistics you quote take no account of nor even mention those who are on zero hour contracts.
ps: UJ can't you just hit the quote button when you want to include another posters post - it makes it much neater!
29-06-2014, 07:45 PM
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Reminder: I am assuming that the authors of this great tome are not cheating and just 'making it up' - if you look at the whole document they have quoted many sources from which their 'evidence' is gleaned. However public surveys are often notoriously skewed and we can never be sure if we ask the 'general public' for their opinion, whether it is the truth or a 'little white lie'this part is quite fascinating because it is suggesting that UK is becoming more diverse and less prejudice about many things including religion same sex marriages etc etc
This can be seen in relation to most of the major equality characteristics,
including race and gender.
Sociologists have seen clear evidence of reductions in racial prejudice in Britain
think human rights are important for creating a fairer society, and 84% agree that it is important to have a law that protects human rights in Britain
29-06-2014, 08:55 PM
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Reminder: I am assuming that the authors of this great tome are not cheating and just 'making it up' - if you look at the whole document they have quoted many sources from which their 'evidence' is gleaned. However public surveys are often notoriously skewed and we can never be sure if we ask the 'general public' for their opinion, whether it is the truth or a 'little white lie'A good point. It is estimated that 75% of all statistics are made up.
As for surveys & questionnaires, people are notoriously prone to saying what they think the pollster wants to hear.
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