01-10-2018, 09:44 PM
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Re: Non EU countries
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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Honestly JBR that is pretty much what we had under our 2016 EU membership. We didn't have schengen, we didn't have the Euro, we could easily have said we don't want any army or single state membership. I think we were already in the doughnut or whatever they call it and not part of the jammy centre. Nobody has free trade with the EU it was always as you seem to have admitted earlier not entirely free. Why should it be free? It's a big market and lucrative. All markets of major economies have barriers to entry. Why wouldn't they?
All the stuff people moan about has always been under our control (blue passports, immigration, our sovereignty). For some reason Britain bends over backwards to follow Eu rules when other members don't. It's beyond me why.
Why should we be half-in and half-out...
when we could be completely out?
01-10-2018, 09:45 PM
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Re: Non EU countries
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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You think commonwealth citizens care about Britain and would forgive all the bad blood? I think you need a reality check. Do you realise what the Empire did to some of those countries.?
01-10-2018, 09:46 PM
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Re: Non EU countries
Originally Posted by shropshiregirl
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And welcome they were and still are. People from the Commonwealth brought wealth to themselves and more importantly, to the UK, when they chose to live here.
I hope we can make amends to them once we leave.
01-10-2018, 09:48 PM
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Re: Non EU countries
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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We won't be able to afford British forces the way the negotiations are going.
01-10-2018, 09:50 PM
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Re: Non EU countries
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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How many times are you going to continue to use that personal cliche instead of addressing the issues in a post that goes against your desperate optimism? It's wearing as thin as your underpants!
01-10-2018, 09:51 PM
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Re: Non EU countries
Originally Posted by JBR
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I agree with you.Why should we be half-in and half-out...
when we could be completely out?
Being completely out means no jam and siberia. If you think the EU are being awkward in negotiations just wait to see what they are like when we are pressing our nose against the glass. They will no doubt put up every barrier to us getting trade deals with other nations and who can blame them? They protect their own and we won't be part of that gang any more. The reason all these nations (such as Iceland, Norway, Switzerland) join is because it is more beneficial for them to be in than out.
I can see Canada joining in ten years. They would love it.
01-10-2018, 09:52 PM
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Re: Non EU countries
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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Amends mean open borders between Britain and the former commonwealth countries. Considering some people I know voted Brexit because they didn't want immigration I will be interested to see developments in this respect.
At least until the UK gets back on its feet, which admittedly may take a few years.
Worth it, though, to regain our sovereignty.
01-10-2018, 09:54 PM
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Re: Non EU countries
Originally Posted by JBR
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For as long as you continue to assure us of your desperate pessimism!
01-10-2018, 09:55 PM
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Re: Non EU countries
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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Because when we were half in we were getting a lot of jam for our half-inness. It was a good deal and we could have made it a hell of a lot better had our politicians made an iota of effort. Being completely out means no jam and siberia. If you think the EU are being awkward in negotiations just wait to see what they are like when we are pressing our nose against the glass. They will no doubt put up every barrier to us getting trade deals with other nations and who can blame them? They protect their own and we won't be part of that gang any more. The reason all these nations (such as Iceland, Norway, Switzerland) join is because it is more beneficial for them to be in than out.
I can see Canada joining in ten years. They would love it.
Am I worried? Do I believe you?
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