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Hi.. For reasons unknown I can't access the Pro Brexit boards. Probably a strange technical thing.

However, I only have one question. Specifically, how do all of the countries outside the EU actually manage to get by, and rather well in many cases?
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12-09-2018, 07:10 AM
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I'm sure they get on just fine and no doubt there are a few on here who will credit the EU , just like they credit the EU for the sun coming up every morning
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12-09-2018, 07:23 AM
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Every country has it's own competitive advantage (or not). Some like Saudi are oil rich, others like China have adapted to become a manufacturing powerhouse by paying very low wages. But plenty of countries are being exploited and aren't doing well at all. Every country has its own problems.

What do you see as our competitive advantage?
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12-09-2018, 08:34 AM
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What do you see as our competitive advantage?
It's a good question and one which I admit I have absolutely no idea of.

Given that people voted one way or another in the referendum, a working knowledge of what our competitive advantage actually is, seems to have been a pretty essential part of our decision making process. I wonder how many people have that knowledge!!! I suspect not many.

Which is akin to going into the Dragon's Den and not being able to answer any questions regarding one's product's USP, the size of the market, nor the target market, nor give any evidence based projections. What is even more galling in retrospect is the irony that it's not the Dragon's but rather the pitcher's response of "I'm out".

Darned good question indeed Annie
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12-09-2018, 09:30 AM
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Some have said our competitive advantage was that we formed a good link between English-speaking countries and the Commonwealth with the EU, particularly links between the US and the EU. The City was the most substantial example of this and our reputation for being a politically-stable economy where investors can be sure their money is safe. Services are becoming such a major sticking point in negotiations. They are being ignored and they form about 80-90% of our economy. We cannot compete on manufacturing. We can compete on innovation but that's never been harnessed properly and in itself is still a service.

So unless we can remain a great trading nation with access to all markets we are stuffed.
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12-09-2018, 09:48 AM
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We don't seem to be country anymore, just a business proposition.....
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12-09-2018, 10:11 AM
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OGF in this day and age wars are fought by economic means. If you have no economic clout you have no power in the world. This is why some countries (who we may consider not to be great friends) were so supportive of Brexit. They would like nothing better than to destroy an economic union.
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12-09-2018, 10:46 AM
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Some have said our competitive advantage was that we formed a good link between English-speaking countries and the Commonwealth with the EU, particularly links between the US and the EU. The City was the most substantial example of this and our reputation for being a politically-stable economy where investors can be sure their money is safe. Services are becoming such a major sticking point in negotiations. They are being ignored and they form about 80-90% of our economy. We cannot compete on manufacturing. We can compete on innovation but that's never been harnessed properly and in itself is still a service.

So unless we can remain a great trading nation with access to all markets we are stuffed.


The EU won't allow that. We are obliged to trade under their rules.

You should tell that to Mrs May. She doesn't seem to understand our advantageous points.

Or perhaps she wants to remain in the EU for her own personal benefit.
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You should tell that to Mrs May. She doesn't seem to understand our advantageous points.

Or perhaps she wants to remain in the EU for her own personal benefit.
I think she does understand which is why she wanted us to remain in the EU as that gives us priority access over non EU English speaking countries. What Brexit does is put us behind the other English speaking nations as some of them will have better access to EU markets than we do so we will be next to useless for them, plus we will be losing the financial markets the way we are heading.

As well as this the manufacturing we have is being decimated by the vote. Only yesterday Jaguar Landrover talked of quitting the UK. Only yesterday there was a news report about how wage inflation is starting to creep into our industries because they cannot get workers now East Europeans are leaving.
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12-09-2018, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS ->
I think she does understand which is why she wanted us to remain in the EU as that gives us priority access over non EU English speaking countries. What Brexit does is put us behind the other English speaking nations as some of them will have better access to EU markets than we do so we will be next to useless for them, plus we will be losing the financial markets the way we are heading.

As well as this the manufacturing we have is being decimated by the vote. Only yesterday Jaguar Landrover talked of quitting the UK. Only yesterday there was a news report about how wage inflation is starting to creep into our industries because they cannot get workers now East Europeans are leaving.
This is just another example of 'project fear'.

Anyway, whether we agree with Brexit or not, we must respect a democratic decision, just as we do in a general election.
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