04-04-2018, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Muddy
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No it can't .I have had many dogs castrated as I worked as a volunteer in humane shelters all over the world .
Castrating doesn't make dogs nervous .
Maybe yours was a one off and would have been nervous anyway .
Nervous dogs can be aggressive .
Of course we know you are perfect Julie and would never let a dog roam but others are less infailible .
Nothing to do with perfection.
And it's well known now nervous dogs can easily become nervous aggressive after castration. If I'd read up about it properly we would have avoided the problem. I didn't and followed advice on forums like this and had 9 years of aggressive dog that could so easily have been avoided.
04-04-2018, 10:58 AM
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How people put their own neuroses onto a dog .A dog live s in the moment it doesn't know it's been castrate for neutered it's asleep for one thing .
Dogs like food shelter and companionship .
What they have never had they will not miss.
04-04-2018, 11:01 AM
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Re: I will be a nervous 'mum' next Tuesday!
Originally Posted by Julie1962
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Oh do stop it muddy. I've had many aggressive dogs you learn quickly how to control the situation that's why mine never roam. That and it's illegal and livestock have to be protected. Nothing to do with perfection.
And it's well known now nervous dogs can easily become nervous aggressive after castration. If I'd read up about it properly we would have avoided the problem. I didn't and followed advice on forums like this and had 9 years of aggressive dog that could so easily have been avoided.
It's not well known at all it in fact it's pretty unknown
Nervous dogs are nervous dogs .
Castrating them makes no difference or perhaps may make some improvement .
A nervous uncastrated male will grow up to be a more nervous uncastrated male as it regularly will get beated up by other dogs
If you had had so many nervous dogs perhaps you would reconsider your way of managing them .
Dogs pick up on their owners behaviour.
04-04-2018, 11:03 AM
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Well that's not anything to do with it, it's the amount of hormones they produce. Take away the ones that help them be brave and you ruin the chance they might get over being nervous.Dogs in fact any animal all need certain hormones to be the best they can. That's one reason many menopausal women end up quivering wrecks with anxiety. Take away the hormones you get anxious.
04-04-2018, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Muddy
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No Julie you are completely wrong in this It's not well known at all it in fact it's pretty unknown
Nervous dogs are nervous dogs .
Castrating them makes no difference or perhaps may make some improvement .
A nervous uncastrated male will grow up to be a more nervous uncastrated male as it regularly will get beated up by other dogs
If you had had so many nervous dogs perhaps you would reconsider your way of managing them .
Dogs pick up on their owners behaviour.
04-04-2018, 11:34 AM
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Not always JulieI have always had rescue dogs usually from horrendous situations .
Usually I found these dogs are so pathetically grateful they are very loyal and affectionate .
Some are aggressive but I am good with dogs ( just a gift I have been blessed with I don't do anything special)
Also it depends on lot s of factors one is how socialised the dog has been in it first six weeks of life .
So let us agree to differ on this .
Meanwhile as regards neutering personally I think dogs should be neutered when they are mature there is no benefit at all doing it too young .
04-04-2018, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Julie1962
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Don't we all feel wicked when we put them through medical things I certainly do, I always think I'd rather it was me at least I understand why things are happening. Jazzi had a difficult start, I can see why she's fed up, each time she posts about her little fur ball she gets someone thinking they know better than her. All she wanted and needed was a virtual hug to get her through the ordeal not a thesis on why she was wrong.
04-04-2018, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Aerolor
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No thesis was given Julie - that's an exaggeration. And no we don't all feel wicked when we put our animals through surgical/medical things. We do our best for them regardless of what we want and/or what is convenient for us - we do not think of how we ourselves feel in these circumstances. IMO that's a commitment and promise we make when we take responsibility for any animal.
04-04-2018, 11:46 AM
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Re: I will be a nervous 'mum' next Tuesday!
Originally Posted by Muddy
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Not always Julie I have always had rescue dogs usually from horrendous situations .
Usually I found these dogs are so pathetically grateful they are very loyal and affectionate .
Some are aggressive but I am good with dogs ( just a gift I have been blessed with I don't do anything special)
Also it depends on lot s of factors one is how socialised the dog has been in it first six weeks of life .
So let us agree to differ on this .
Meanwhile as regards neutering personally I think dogs should be neutered when they are mature there is no benefit at all doing it too young .
04-04-2018, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Aerolor
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No thesis was given Julie - that's an exaggeration. And no we don't all feel wicked when we put our animals through surgical/medical things. We do our best for them regardless of what we want and/or what is convenient for us - we do not think of how we ourselves feel in these circumstances. IMO that's a commitment and promise we make when we take responsibility for any animal.
I think those of us who gave advice did so with the best of intentions based on our own long experience of dog ownership. Whether a person chooses to take any notice of what we say is up to them.
My vet would refuse to spay a puppy that might be going to come into season at any moment so it was not just my opinion.
I think Holly should be fine. I am just extra cautious with my dogs and like to eliminate any possible risks if I can .
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